Should pressure washing companies be licensed?

Should pressure washing companies be licensed??

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 73.2%

  • No

    Votes: 15 26.8%
  • Total voters
    56
Ohio pressure wash said:
non certified does not = cheap.

To be honest...I'm not sure which will be more entertaining, the coming Org Certification War or the next season of Breaking Bad.
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I don't get the certification problem. It's a private certification. There's no requirement for it to work.

As long as there is breath in my lungs I will fight anyone who ever tries to advance certification to government requirements. I think I have a proven track record of that in my constant fight with the PWNA and Robert Hinderliter with his BMP's that specify that reclaim be used anytime we use hot water.

That is why I am working hard with the UAMCC. Sure, some d#ckhead can come along in the future and change the direction of the UAMCC. But not if we stick together as a membership and make sure that our goal remains united. That goal being to educate contractors on how to use standards that are safe and effective, while educating the customer on the need for our service overall.

The certification just means that you are educated in how to use the set of standards adopted by the UaMCC.

I have about 10 fully SONITX certified contractors who have been taught OUR methods of operation from bidding to cleaning to billing. Those contractors are educated on how to complete the work OUR way and are expected to do so if they use our name to get or service accounts.

It's like when you see an HVAC truck with a YORK logo on it. That company isn't YORK, but they are certified to work on YORK equipment because they have taken the training to do so and been tested and passed and YORK is confident enough in them to put their logo on the truck.

It's the same with the UAMCC. The UAMCC is adopting standards based on the experience of contractors who have been successful in business for a while.

If you agree with those standards and pass the test you will be UAMCC certified.

Does that mean every other contractor instantly sucks????? No. It simply means you have agreed to adopt a set of standards and work under the parameters of those standards to the best of your ability.

I'm sure the UAMCC will provide information to give to customers that will try to convince them that a contractor who has been certified can be trusted to have the knowledge of how to do the work properly. This isn't "LICENSING" it's the free market at work.
 
Blacks law dictionary, Bouvier's law dictionary, or Bell's law dictionary are the more prominent and widely used in matters of law, and legal issues. The reason you need a law dictionary is because in matters of the law or the legal system, a different language is used. It is a language created by lawyers, and is meant to be understood only by lawyers.

 According to Blacks fifth edition law dictionary LICENSE means "The permission by competent authority to do an act which without such permission, would be illegal". What it is saying is if you wish to do certain acts then you are committing an offense (you are a criminal) if you do not get a license (permission) from competent authority (the government), before you engage in those acts. None of us wish to be criminals or break the law, and so we BLINDLY presume, assume that we must obtain a license.


Let us stop for a moment, and dissect this information. We know that marriage is "lawful" and we know that the government cannot give permission (license / permit) to do anything "unlawful". For example you cannot get a license / permission to beak into cars because that is unlawful right? We must now realize that anything that we can do legally with a license, we can lawfully do without one.

I have found no such licensing requirements here in Florida, but there are plenty of companies claiming to be licensed. I wonder what sort of license they are touting.

Now apply this to your "Driver's License", "Marriage License", "Pet License" and your "Fishing License" ....

Certifications (i.e proper training) is a completely different animal.
 
Welcome Alfred. Does any other board have as many freedom minded individuals as this one? Your definition is of course correct, all those licenses are 'lawful' licenses for the government (competent authority?) to issue (in a legal sense) - it is their mis-application to the wrong people that is the horrible problem we have today. Driver license - issued to those who 'drive' on our roads to make a profit for themselves - cab, bus, trucking etc. NOT traveling in a car. Marriage license - permission to marry outside your race, this was illegal at the time so complies with the definition. Now we all supposedly need permission to travel and get married. I'm thinking the hunting and fishing and pet and every other license follow the same. So is it 'illegal' to power wash stuff without permission?
 
Thanks... and who's Alfred? (lol)

This forum isn't really the place to get into this sort of discussion, but just for the record, I'm completely opposed to ANY sort of licensing. As I mentioned before, certification(s) is completely different and I am all for that. This is one of the reasons I joined, I want to learn the proper way to do my job.

I'm new to this industry coming from the a nerd trade (Network Administrator) and am willing to put forth the effort to do it right the first time. The primary reason I left a well paying job in the mortgage industry (I retired 8 years ago) was to be able to make my own decisions and not be "bossed" around by someone that didn't know my job anywhere near as good as I did.

The public school system(s) have "dumbed" America down to point they believe everything the government tells them. Most people are incapable of thinking for themselves and knowing right from wrong.

I've been studying the "law" for the past 6 years, not for a job, but just to know how to handle myself when confronted with "legal" situations.

I'm glad to be here.

Red
 
Try cleaning coils in Jacksonville without an HVAC contractors license. What is perfectly legal in 47 states is against the law there and will result in prosecution if you don't honor their initial "cease and desist" demand. Same in Texas.

After over 50 years of good service from dozens of air filter service companies operating in Texas they woke up one day to find their businesses outlawed with the stroke of a pen. It took a lot of time and money but they finally got it reversed.

Don't be fooled. Most of this nonsense begins with an industry trying to eliminate competition. The HVAC companies are behind the filter and coil licensing because they charge double what a competent dedicated service does. The police are behind the vehicle licensing because it gives them a legal right to pull any citizen over on the streets to search for further violations.

The public is continually subjected to fear tactics that bear little resemblance to reality. We have been brainwashed to believe this travesty somehow makes use "safe".

While licensing of drivers and vehicles do result in the capture of real criminals, the benefits are far outweighed by the choking of our legal system that has to deal with millions of cases each year where the defendant, an average citizen, was minding their own business and harming no one, yet are dragged into the legal system and are now labeled criminals for the most minor violation.

Likewise good businesses are shut down or forced to add unnecessary techniques on a daily basis because we gave been fooled into believing that without the heavy hand of the government society would collapse.

We are witnessing the fallacy of this concept right now in the northeast where illegal laws limit the rights of individuals to defend themselves with firearms.

Because of this families are now at the mercy of looters who would have already been removed from society if police resources were spent on catching real criminals instead of terrorizing the general public and prosecuting people who are doing things that hurt no one or hurt no one but themselves.

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Arab Spring is a deceptive political term. The middle east is not moving towards any type of democracy that resembles our republic based freedom our ancestors fought for.

It is time for an American Spring and every forum on the internet is the proper place for it.

We are Americans before we are power washers.

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Derrel, sorry about that Alfred thing. Starting off right can put you light years ahead, like every job I've had, the way or who you get trained by in the beginning makes a huge difference from then on.
 
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