Pressurized Chemical Induction System

Thinking about buying one of these.

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Pressurized Chemical Induction System #1595

The biggest complaints with chemical injectors are:
1. With more than 125’ of hose they won’t draw chemical!
2. Although it is a 20% injector it doesn’t draw enough chemical!
3. I wish I didn’t have to use a ‘pump-up’ to apply bleach!

Here is your solution to all your problems. The Allison Chem-Inductor attaches to your existing chemical injector and allows you to draw an incredible amount of chemical.

The following test was base on using a typicali injector advertised to draw at 20% (not ours) mounted on a TS-2021 General Pump running at 5.6 GPM.
1. With 100’ of hose - NO CHEM INDUCTOR 63 oz. of chem per min.
2. With 100’ of hose - WITH CHEM INDUCTOR 204 oz. of chem per min.
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3. With 500’ of hose - NO CHEM INDUCTOR 0 oz. of chem per min.
4. With 500’ of hose - WITH CHEM INDUCTOR 204 oz. of chem per min.

This means that regardless of which problem you hare having you will still induce almost 2 gallons of chemical per minute into the system. Never again will you have to apply the product 2 or 3 times to get the job done. Now you’ll be on your way after the first pass. Roof Cleaners using bleach really love this system. No more ‘pump-up’ or ‘back-pac’ sprayers to lug around!

System Comes Complete with:
Allison High Induction Chemical Injector
Induction Pump is mounted on a convenient ‘hand carry’ base plate.
This System can be detached from the Chemical Injector and utilized to spray undiluted chemical.

To be used with pressure acutated unloaders only.

How does it work? What are the pros and cons?

If it draws 204 oz of chem per min would that be more then the x-jet (without a nozzle)? I think the x-jet is 50%.

Think of your downstream injector sucking chemical into the stream in your pressure hose.

Now think that now instead of the injector sucking the chemical into the stream in the pressure hose, the pump is pumping it into the downstream injector into the pressure hose.


If I remember correctly the X-Jet without proportioners will pull a 2:1 ratio so for every 2 gallons of water that goes through the hose, it will pull one gallon with it for a total of 3 gallons for that given amount of time.

So if I am correct and you are using store bought 6% then when using the X-Jet you would end up with 2% hitting the surface. 3 gallons of mix which contains 2 gallons water and 1 gallon of 6% when divided by 3 would be 2% if I am correct.

I understand how the system works. I think it's a great idea by envirospec.

So what I'm wondering is if it will achieve a 2:1 ratio or better?

If I did my math right correct I should be at a 60% chemical draw rate. This would really be nice when needing stronger chemicals, especially when doing hard to strip decks.

Another great advantage is that you can spray chemicals on without a soap tip and turn down the flow.

For example if your spraying a kitchen exhaust hood you don't want to be spraying chemicals at 5.5 gpm and with this system you can turn down the water flow with your ball valve to about half and your chemicals will still be coming out as opposed to using the standard down steam injector, it needs to be opened all the way.

It is just another tool for the job, whatever makes your job easier.

When I need to get a stronger solution onto a surface, I will either X-Jet it or use the 2gpm or 5gpm Delavan and spray it on with that.

With all tools for the job they all have good and bad points.

I do not know anyone that has purchased that device so I do not know how good it works.

I remember Bob at Pressuretek telling me years ago that he would rig up something like that to the downstream injector for stronger chemical mix but it will weaken the spring so keep some extras.

Ask Paul more about it and see if he thinks it will benefit you and what you want to use it for.

They work just like described above except they do not weaken the spring in the injector, it is the bleach or acids that eats the spring up.

The people that have purchased them so far love them for strong simple chem application without having to drag extra chem lines all over. One advantage it gives you is that it allows you to apply at a higher pressure with strong mix. As long as there is some venturi created (usually around 1000psi) it will inject the chem into the line. I have had some tell me they can apply chem at 1500 psi or more with the induction system now, and at a consistent rate.

The pump I assume doesn't use much power so would it be okay using it off my pressure washer battery? It's a 12volt system. Another question I have is can you adjust the chemical ratio?

Can you give me a shipping quote to Littleton, CO 80127 or do I have to call in? Thanks Paul.

Not too much draw the battery should last a day without having to recharge if it is a good deep cycle battery. The best way to adjust the chemical ratio is to make your mix stronger or weaker, you could install a metering valve on the outlet but that may cause it to cycle on and off some.

Shipping will be roughly $22.68 shipped ups ground.

Paul Kassander said:

They work just like described above except they do not weaken the spring in the injector, it is the bleach or acids that eats the spring up.

The people that have purchased them so far love them for strong simple chem application without having to drag extra chem lines all over. One advantage it gives you is that it allows you to apply at a higher pressure with strong mix. As long as there is some venturi created (usually around 1000psi) it will inject the chem into the line. I have had some tell me they can apply chem at 1500 psi or more with the induction system now, and at a consistent rate.

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Hey Paul,..If you're reading this,..could you tell me what happened to this idea? You seemed very positive in this statement about the pressurized downstream injection method of applying chemical at a stronger ratio. But it isn't talked about much these days. The points you mention above are all worthwhile.

Thank You,
Jeff

I dont even see it for sale anymore.... what hapenned ? Seemed like a great idea ...

RomanM said:

I dont even see it for sale anymore.... what hapenned ? Seemed like a great idea ...

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It is a very simple idea,..and can also be used in conjunction with a remote unit,..just add the 12V pump before the solenoid, and wire it all together,..I've been doing this without issue so far this year and it really jacked up the percentage,...especially considering I'm running 10 GPM,.I am getting about a 10:1 ratio,..which is excellent where DS'ing is concerned.



Jeff