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Hey all PWI contractors. I am going to do an off the cuff sales pitch about the UAMCC and would like some feed back from you all if you don't mind.
I never really thought about joining any organizations. Just did not really care, didn't think I really needed one So I never joined one or any other types of orgs. I actually would say, "who needs one" I guess I could still say who needs one and many of you guys could say the same thing

Well I joined a couple PM orgs and I started seeing the benefit of joining right away...I started getting jobs from them..so now its a NO brainer for me, theres a couple PM orgs I will always be with. I have also found out other than getting jobs, I am meeting some very interesting, and cool people, the networking thing is great. I am getting people to know who I am, what my company is about etc etc

Now I would like to know what some of you PWI contractors think of the UAMCC. You saw it being formed for the past 15 months and we launched a couple months ago....so what do you think so far?

I know some commercial contractors have said that, the UAMCC will just be a bunch of stuff for residential guys and I know some residential guys said the UAMCC will just help commercial guys. Well let me tell you, both commercial & residential contractors are benefiting RIGHT now.

Some contractors will be negative about the UAMCC or any org, say it’s a union, a cult, a scam. I have heard some good ones. Everyone has a right to their opinions, but those that are wondering, the UAMCC is the real deal and I see it growing, to be a real help to the industry, not just UAMCC members either.

We have assisted in municipalities to knock down what could have been strick BMP’s. The UAMCC is ALWAYS going to fight for the contractors


Let me tell you some of the things that are going on, now there’s still a MILLION things the UAMCC has to do, will learn to do, will get ideas to do etc etc. WHAT about getting work, how can an org like the UAMCC get you work......WELL it already is getting some work. I know the first or second lead one contractor got it was an $850 job. PAID for his membership in one job. I know a Florida UAMCC contractor just recently picked up 40 commercial locations for cleaning; he is already making it work. I know another contractor out west, has gotten at least a few jobs, don't know how much $$$ but I am sure its well over a grand or two.
This job lead just came in Monday and is already being serviced this week. A UAMCC contractor has just picked up several locations/jobs and will be servicing them in FL, N & S Carolina and VA. Man its an easy project too. There’s a total of 16 states that need servicing. Go UAMCC contractors. Contractors you can have these leads sent right to you. The UAMCC is and has been contacted about national accounts 2000+ locations POSSIBLY. What’s that all about? We are looking into it. Companies are noticing a National Org and this is just in a COUPLE short months. Any window washing companies here? We are getting a TON of window washing RFP’s a TON. These are money jobs contractors. All kinds of commercial stuff

Do you non members know we have a Procurement or RFP agent working for the UAMCC. YUP, we get many local, state bid requests from that agent and then the UAMCC passes all those RFP's to ALL its members, so if the members want they can bid on it. The member of the UAMCC doesn't have to go track these RFP's down. They come right to them in their email. There's been gutter cleaning RFP's right here in Myrtle Beach, There's been over 1 million sq ft parking garages RFP's, window cleaning RFP's, Sidewalk RFP's. So in just a short couple months, these RFP's and other commercial and resi jobs are already coming in and being passed on to members.

These job leads, RFP’s are real and many. I ask you all that aren’t UAMCC members, wouldn’t you like to see these multi State leads, wouldn’t you resi guys like to get leads?

Do you know there are other benefits? I am using a fleet oil change and service benefit. I will be buying a big screen, a new office computer and a computer for my kids and save $400 - $500 from retail big box store, because we have a business partner program from the store nation wide. I know some have saved on lift rental. Do you know we have some stock post cards and all you have to do is email your logo and info to be put on the card and it only cost $35 and then 1000 cards cost like $90+ to have them made. We have some contractors using the post cards RIGHT NOW. There’s a bunch of other benefits too that can be used and that are being used by UAMCC members

So you can get jobs and benefits and for many have part or all over your membership paid for by what you save or what you make from jobs the UAMCC helps you get. COOL

Like I said the UAMCC is rolling right along, we are working on many many many things, things that will put $$$$$ in contractors pockets. We are going to do public relations things with our "Wash With US" program. Local Myrtle Beach UAMCC contractors are going to doing several things with the Was With Us program after we slow down a little

What else is so great about the UAMCC...ahhh the LOGO. I have it on much of my advertising. I have had at least 6 different people ask me about this UAMCC. I explain to them, its an org to better our industry and better ourselves for our customers. I know many were surprised when I tell them about the UAMCC, conventions, RT's and all thats going on in our industry, many just had no idea

Now what about this UAMCC Convention. This isn't going to be a bunch of contractors sitting around shooting the chit. This is going top be a quality, professional high impact event. We have nationally known Keynote speaker George Headly speaking and doing break out rooms, we have a big wig from Direct Media, we are going to have stuff for resi and commercial guys. There is going to be some cool speakers like never seen before in our industry. The venue The Marriott World Center lends itself to pure professionalism. This is going to be an event that really shouldn't be missed

The UAMCC is signing up Vendor members, some great and well known and not so known vendors. They are seeing the short term and long term benefits of joining a national org

I really like to see some of you PWI contractors take a look at the UAMCC. I think it could help all contractors. The larger it gets too, the better, more great minds the better

I know a lot of you contractors, were wondering about the UAMCC, I know some didn’t care either way, some are just sitting back waiting to see what becomes of the UAMCC. I bang my head, I see contractors right here on PWI, friends and associates that could have these leads and jobs, but they just won’t look at the UAMCC now, guys I know could be making the thousands of dollars that have been given out in jobs. Jobs in FL, SC, NC, PA, VA, CA, TX, IN, ME, TN, MN, GA, LA and many more states

This UAMCC is doing very well in a short period of time, the sky is the limit. Tell me what your thoughts are, take a look, and think about it for a while. If its a good fit for your company, join, if not right now, sooner or later


See ya all
 
Jeff, you had me at hey you had me at hey....

LOL Ya my wife says I'm better looking than Tom Cruise :cool:

Lots going on at the UAMCC, I hope all take a serious look. Our membership is growing every day. Commercial, residential, Woodies, KEC and many more are joining. We have the tech guy and agent digging for RFP's, leads, many have come in and many more to come. No strings attached, This is for the contractors and we want as many contractors to get involved.

Tell you the truth, its going even better than I thought and we have only scratched the surface of what the UAMCC can be and will become. Carlos is at this fulltime and with the help of the team, volunteers and membership, the sky is the limit.


Come on PWI contractors tell us what you are thinking so far, give us ideas, lets hear what you are thinking. We have an agenda of helping contractors & promoting our great industry.

Look forward to seeing some of you at the Pressure Washing Convention in Orlando Oct 22nd -25th. Its going to be a heck of a time, ALL are welcome, Distributors are filling the booth space and contractors are signing up. Know Your Business To Grow Your Business, Veterans and newbies a like will benefit from this convention. Any ideas on the convention, what you all would like to see, lets hear it
 
PWI has been doing just this for nearly a decade!


Don't you know that PWI is just an piece of Ron's evil scheme to take over all the pressure washing business in the world? :p

And Jeff, It's got to feel good to have a place where you can post a full page of "promotion" pretty much wherever you feel like without worrying about a few whiners following you around complaining that you are posting in the wrong thread. Ron can't even say hello at the UAMCC board without some smartazz remark ironically from a dumbazz.

I won't join the UAMCC to get contracts. If I ever did join it the reason would be because I've been convinced that the UAMCC is using common sense to advance ALL pressure washers via real education and real representation in regards to environmental and other issues, including licensing. (as opposed to representation that simply promotes more sales of equipment to keep up with additional rules)

I would have joined if the purpose was genuinely to "help the contractor". But the fact is the purpose is to "help the contractor that pays to be helped". That's fine, that's what organizations do. Most of them.

Except for PWI.

(And Ron, don't bother calling me and yelling at me about this post. I'm not listening to anymore of your trying to make peace. They don't want peace, they want your opinions, and mine, eliminated)

I hope this was the right thread. This is UAMCC thoughts right?
 
Don't you know that PWI is just an piece of Ron's evil scheme to take over all the pressure washing business in the world? :p

And Jeff, It's got to feel good to have a place where you can post a full page of "promotion" pretty much wherever you feel like without worrying about a few whiners following you around complaining that you are posting in the wrong thread. Ron can't even say hello at the UAMCC board without some smartazz remark ironically from a dumbazz.

I won't join the UAMCC to get contracts. If I ever did join it the reason would be because I've been convinced that the UAMCC is using common sense to advance ALL pressure washers via real education and real representation in regards to environmental and other issues, including licensing. (as opposed to representation that simply promotes more sales of equipment to keep up with additional rules)

I would have joined if the purpose was genuinely to "help the contractor". But the fact is the purpose is to "help the contractor that pays to be helped". That's fine, that's what organizations do. Most of them.

Except for PWI.

(And Ron, don't bother calling me and yelling at me about this post. I'm not listening to anymore of your trying to make peace. They don't want peace, they want your opinions, and mine, eliminated)

I hope this was the right thread. This is UAMCC thoughts right?

Not much more I can say to you Tony, that you and I havent gone over before. Have a great one Tony
 
Tony, PWI and UAMCC are nothing alike in the benefits that they offer. Both are great organizations, but that is comparing apples to oranges.

The only thing that will make you happy, is if everyone could get all the benefits whether they pay or not.

Me paying to keep an organizatio running so that someone who doesnt pay gets the benefits? If the UAMCC were a country, that would sound like a marxist regime...? No?

And a side note, I have been flagged a few times for someone not liking what I have said here on PWI. Why? Because I didnt follow the rules. Thats what happens. You can't just make up your own rules, no matter who you are, or who you think you are.
 
This is such an old argument - the whole "org vs not org - what's in it for me - what good is helping just some, blah blah blah blah blah"

At the end of the day, each company needs to evaluate their personal goals and what they feel is needed to accomplish them. If it is a national org, they pay dues and join, sport the logo and are happy. If it is a local network, they work together to achieve goals that provide benefits to the smaller group. If it is a forum, they can absorb what is offered freely with no strings. It all comes down to what box you want to fit into and what YOUR company feels they can gain or contribute.

With that said, I do find it somewhat amusing that yes, Jeff can come on here and do his "off the cut & paste" post without any repercussions from the owner of the forum but the owner of this forum (and others) cannot go to the UAMCC forum and promote their contributions to this industry.

And before anyone goes slapping ME around for speaking up and potentially appearing to be taking shots the UAMCC - I'm not. I just believe that while being United, the industry should also give equal consideration across the "boards".

Now I'm shutting up before I get myself in trouble tonight.

Celeste
 
Tony, PWI and UAMCC are nothing alike in the benefits that they offer. Both are great organizations, but that is comparing apples to oranges.

The only thing that will make you happy, is if everyone could get all the benefits whether they pay or not.

Me paying to keep an organizatio running so that someone who doesnt pay gets the benefits? If the UAMCC were a country, that would sound like a marxist regime...? No?

And a side note, I have been flagged a few times for someone not liking what I have said here on PWI. Why? Because I didnt follow the rules. Thats what happens. You can't just make up your own rules, no matter who you are, or who you think you are.

No, Scott, you "paying to keep an organization running so that someone who doesn't pay gets the benefits" is not Marxism, given freely it's benevolence.
It's being thankful for what you have and being willing to give others a hand up to do the same.

That must be a foreign concept.

And by the way, if you made over $110k last year you are already keeping an organization running so that someone who doesn't pay gets the benefits. It's called progressive tax and you either paid it or you lived off someone more successful than you paying it for you.
 
This is such an old argument - the whole "org vs not org - what's in it for me - what good is helping just some, blah blah blah blah blah"

At the end of the day, each company needs to evaluate their personal goals and what they feel is needed to accomplish them. If it is a national org, they pay dues and join, sport the logo and are happy. If it is a local network, they work together to achieve goals that provide benefits to the smaller group. If it is a forum, they can absorb what is offered freely with no strings. It all comes down to what box you want to fit into and what YOUR company feels they can gain or contribute.

With that said, I do find it somewhat amusing that yes, Jeff can come on here and do his "off the cut & paste" post without any repercussions from the owner of the forum but the owner of this forum (and others) cannot go to the UAMCC forum and promote their contributions to this industry.

And before anyone goes slapping ME around for speaking up and potentially appearing to be taking shots the UAMCC - I'm not. I just believe that while being United, the industry should also give equal consideration across the "boards".

Now I'm shutting up before I get myself in trouble tonight.

Celeste
That has got to be the best example/advice I've heard yet on this whole situation...You got my vote on that one Celeste! :)
 
No, Scott, you "paying to keep an organization running so that someone who doesn't pay gets the benefits" is not Marxism, given freely it's benevolence.
It's being thankful for what you have and being willing to give others a hand up to do the same.

That must be a foreign concept.

And by the way, if you made over $110k last year you are already keeping an organization running so that someone who doesn't pay gets the benefits. It's called progressive tax and you either paid it or you lived off someone more successful than you paying it for you.

The issue Tony is that you are blaming the UAMCC, not the members. Maybe you should join, and then pay for 3 other contractors who cant afford it to join too. That would make you feel tingly inside I think.

As warm and fuzzy as the concept is Tony, when the Payers realize that non payers are getting the exact same benefits, the Payers become non payers. Then nobody is paying and the org dies. In a concept, your ideas are great, in reality they will never work. (and giving $20 a week at church is not the same concept.)

And you're right Tony about the progressive tax. And every one of us b*tches and moans about it constantly. Non of us accept it, and we are working to try and change it. So what was your point?
 
With that said, I do find it somewhat amusing that yes, Jeff can come on here and do his "off the cut & paste" post without any repercussions from the owner of the forum but the owner of this forum (and others) cannot go to the UAMCC forum and promote their contributions to this industry.

It is nice that Ron the the admins allow this. And everyone appreciates it. Unfortunatley, it is against the written rules at UAMCC. If someone wants the rules changed, lobby for it. You cant just go into someones backyard and break their rules, just because you dont have any in yours. You may allow me to put my feet on your coffee table, but it doesnt give you the right to put yours on mine.
 
Scott, you are mistaken because the UAMCC has long allowed everyone but Ron to freely post on the UAMCC forum. Matt Johnson has been allowed to freely promote his roundtable, Don Phelps has been allowed to freely promote his BBS, etc.
Now, let's stick to the relative merits of the UAMCC and whether someone should join. We need to stay away from the moaning about what or is not allowed on another forum. It is really non productive and about as effective as arguing politics or religion.
 
Scott, you are mistaken because the UAMCC has long allowed everyone but Ron to freely post on the UAMCC forum. Matt Johnson has been allowed to freely promote his roundtable, Don Phelps has been allowed to freely promote his BBS, etc.
Now, let's stick to the relative merits of the UAMCC and whether someone should join. We need to stay away from the moaning about what or is not allowed on another forum. It is really non productive and about as effective as arguing politics or religion.

Scott I agree with everything you said except that I am mistaken. Promotion is fine and is not hindered. They allow 1 thread per event. Not 5 threads for the same event promoting different aspects of it.

I am sorry my friend, but you are mistaken.


UAMCC rules:

Example 2: If you are a distributor or contractor reporting on an event, a new website, a new product, etc. ALL updates regarding that topic are to be contained within that thread. Update the thread as often as you wish but refrain from starting new threads on the same topic. New threads on the same topic will be moved or deleted by staff
 
The issue Tony is that you are blaming the UAMCC, not the members. Maybe you should join, and then pay for 3 other contractors who cant afford it to join too. That would make you feel tingly inside I think.

As warm and fuzzy as the concept is Tony, when the Payers realize that non payers are getting the exact same benefits, the Payers become non payers. Then nobody is paying and the org dies. In a concept, your ideas are great, in reality they will never work. (and giving $20 a week at church is not the same concept.)

And you're right Tony about the progressive tax. And every one of us b*tches and moans about it constantly. Non of us accept it, and we are working to try and change it. So what was your point?

Scott, you fit in perfectly at the UAMCC.

Good for you.

I don't.

Looks like the UAMCC has hit a goldmine with the RFP promises. Membership is going through the roof. I hope everyone who is counting on the UAMCC to feed them work will be happy.

You won't see me or my son Chris jumping on the bandwagon
 
Scott, you fit in perfectly at the UAMCC.

Good for you.

I don't.

Looks like the UAMCC has hit a goldmine with the RFP promises. Membership is going through the roof. I hope everyone who is counting on the UAMCC to feed them work will be happy.

You won't see me or my son Chris jumping on the bandwagon

And that is quite alright Tony. Like you said, its not for everyone.

Hopefully you will stick around the BBS though.
 
With that said, I do find it somewhat amusing that yes, Jeff can come on here and do his "off the cut & paste" post without any repercussions from the owner of the forum but the owner of this forum (and others) cannot go to the UAMCC forum and promote their contributions to this industry.


Now I'm shutting up before I get myself in trouble tonight.

Celeste

Well actually there are hundreds of Ron's posts & threads, helpful ones, ones on promotion TOO etc etc on UAMCC. So when you say the owner of this forum and others CANNOT go on the UAMCC forum and promote their contributions to this industry you are wrong. Hundreds of Rons post are right on UAMCC and many other promotional threads from others. Yes he has been asked him to move some and there has been some disagreements and also some of the diagreements have been worked out, but saying CANNOT is just totally false.

As for this thread, I actually looked for a place other than Mindless Blabbering to start this thread, but there is no longer a section on this BB like there was before, for UAMCC, PWNA stuff, those forums are gone now.

In a perfect world. I just wanted to get a dialog going and share that there are many job leads out there and some great benefits. I have talked to some PWI contractors on the phone, but I cant call them all, so I thought I would share whats going on and also get some thoughts from everyone. Plain and simple

If the admin or Ron doesnt want it posted here I know they would tell me and I would move or remove this thread. Repercussions I will deal with, I know Ron has called and dealt with what he thinks is right and wrong. I sure we can get past it all. Ron is a great help to the industry, I have said it many times and I feel the UAMCC is too, just like you stated during and after the Charlotte stuff. I hope we all can get past some of the smaller stuff and work on promoting this great industry, there will alwys be a problem here and there, but nothing I think smart people cant work out and deal with

Have you used any of your UAMCC benefits yet Celeste? Got any questions about the them let me know I will get you the answers

Hope we can get this thread to be positive, but if not, its a free world and an open BB, so we can just read on

Go PWI:)
 
Scott, you fit in perfectly at the UAMCC.

Good for you.

I don't.

Looks like the UAMCC has hit a goldmine with the RFP promises. Membership is going through the roof. I hope everyone who is counting on the UAMCC to feed them work will be happy.

You won't see me or my son Chris jumping on the bandwagon

Its more than just the RFP's, many want to contribute to promoting, the industry. I know thats why Ron joined in part, I'm sure. I brought up the RFP's major, because I think its a major PLUS, because I know many contractors that might want to get them and I wanted to share that, that is a good part of some of the benefits of the UAMCC. Theres much more and more to come. Tony I believe in this UAMCC. I have gotten no jobs from being a member, I have gained only the satifaction of helping. Its something I like to do.

I am a strong supportter and have been of Rons RT's, the PWI, PT State, TGS and now the UAMCC just that plain and simple

Hopefully others will benefit from this thread
 
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