I think Im getting the hang the hang of Wood
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Richard Fleming
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Looking good,,,,,How did you clean the deck.....I have been using F 13 to clean and F 8 to brighten,,,,also used a caustic mix the other day on one to clean and both worked good for me.
Lightning Gene
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12.5 SH and water.......neutralized with Dawn and water
Jonathan Ellis
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Good job Gene, looks good.
PressureWashE
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how are you applying the stain? If you didn't order the deckster i would of said get you a pump up and spray the stain down. The deckster works great though.
John
John
Really?
I would use more of a percarbonate for grey wood to clean, although the bleach debate has and will continue. Never heard of using Dawn to neutralize - try oxalic.
Deck looks good IMO, however, a few minutes sanding would really add to the Wow factor, especially on the ends of the floorboards.
Never used RS, but have heard that it can lap pretty easy - might be careful cutting in too many boards at a time like you have done near the house.
Richard Fleming
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Oxalic works GREAT for neutralizing and BRIGHTENING the wood!!!!
Lightning Gene
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Customer did not want any sanding or wood replacement as I suggested we are still going to stain the ends....as for the wall cut ins...I did that on purpose to see if I could go back and stain with no lap marks where we started again ....we did feather the cuts ouy.....Ready Seal did a great job with no marks in the deck anywhere...applied with paint pad on a pole ....
Richard Fleming
New member
I purchased me an airless sprayer to apply my stain and sealer with...of course you cant use it on all jobs due to overspray but it works great where you can use it.
Henry Bockman
Maryland Pressure Washing
Dawn as a neutrilizer? I don't think so. I'm willing to bet that if you ran a lit strip on it the deck would not be nuetrilized.
I've never had Ready Seal lap before, and I've tried to get it too when selling it for a job. Didn't have any problem getting other products to lap or leave run marks though!
Doug Dahlke
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I agree with Henry on the Ready Seal. It is about as idiot proof as you can get as far as lap marks go. You can't make it lap if you try to do it.
ABC
New member
+1 Dawn is only a sufactant to help with "cling" Gene. We spoke about this.
It won't neutrilize. Ox acid is the way to go for neutrilization. (Harcos)
RS is about the easiest stain to use, but, will blotch up and goo a bit when applied without neutrilized surface.
You will also see the Deckster will make super short work of a project that size. You'll love it.
Pete Marentay
Distinguished Professors
Dish Soap Potential Problems
If I can offer any advice, Gene, it would be to avoid the use of dish soap on wood. Dish detergent is usually a high-sudsing soap. Makes "thorough and complete" rinsing very hard to do within a reasonable time frame. Since the soap carries some amount of bleach or sodium hydroxide into the wood (your action chemicals) failing to rinse until ALL traces of suds are gone means that some of the action chemical stays in the wood too. This could lead to a condition called "saponification" where the residue cleaner left in the wood attacks the oil sealer you apply on top of it.
In all of the cleaners we make for wood, we avoid high-sudsers completely - opting for cleaners that rinse easily and fast. All you want from a soap is a little "lift", Gene, because your action chemical does all the work. I would steer completely away from dish soap on wood and find a more wood-friendly cleaner.
If I can offer any advice, Gene, it would be to avoid the use of dish soap on wood. Dish detergent is usually a high-sudsing soap. Makes "thorough and complete" rinsing very hard to do within a reasonable time frame. Since the soap carries some amount of bleach or sodium hydroxide into the wood (your action chemicals) failing to rinse until ALL traces of suds are gone means that some of the action chemical stays in the wood too. This could lead to a condition called "saponification" where the residue cleaner left in the wood attacks the oil sealer you apply on top of it.
In all of the cleaners we make for wood, we avoid high-sudsers completely - opting for cleaners that rinse easily and fast. All you want from a soap is a little "lift", Gene, because your action chemical does all the work. I would steer completely away from dish soap on wood and find a more wood-friendly cleaner.
Lightning Gene
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Thx for the info....Maybe whenever my deckster comes in and you call me I may add to my order.........Thx Gene
Pete Marentay
Distinguished Professors
Great news, Gene. The last parts we need for Decksters are expected to ship to us tomorrow. I figure we will get them in to us by next Monday. I promise to get yours built and out the door as quickly as possible once we get the stuff that is back-ordered!
Lightning Gene
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Lightning Gene
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Last year we started doing a few decks but 2010 we plan on doing more decks and fences.
Christopher
Moderator
How is that Deckster working out for you Gene?
I have heard a lot of good things about them for wood restoration like Decks, Fences, Gazeebo's, Arbors and wood walkways.
I have heard a lot of good things about them for wood restoration like Decks, Fences, Gazeebo's, Arbors and wood walkways.