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This was wrong. No doubt. If Russ was called, others should have been given the same opportunity. Carlos, you f'd up, man.

I'm not going argue this twenty times. I am definitely biased because I know and respect Carlos as a friend, a good businessman and just a good human being.. What you have done here is wrong, Russ. The man puts his heart and soul into this org and for some reason thinks its important to have you onboard. I do not share that belief. That is no offense meant to you. There are at least ten contractors in the UAMCC that make you and me look like very small potatoes. One member near me has a 6000 square foot facility with multiple trucks and does very serious volume. There are others that have been in the industry 20+ years. Ron is one of them.

Instead of you being flattered by the guy trying to have a BBS icon come onboard, you toss him under the bus. I don't know what your motivation is. Maybe you want to be the hero that "exposes" the UAMCC or Carlos. Who knows. The man reached out to you and made a mistake in his approach. If any one of you doubts his intentions, get to know the man. He puts 14 hours a day into this organization. Its a paid position. I'm guessing Carlos averages about 50 cents per hour. All he wants to do is get the organization on its feet so we all have a voice. I could care less whether you believe that or not. it is what it is.

It saddens me that a guy who has integrity, honesty and the puts the benefit of others in front of his own well being is attacked as some slime ball. You couldn't be more wrong. I don't play the good ole boy nor the politically correct games. Jeff does and most of you know and trust him. Do you believe Jeff to be an idiot or unscrupulous? A crook? Naive? He'd have to be one of these to constantly lay out his reputation saying again and again that the org is legit.

The road to hell is truly paved with good intentions. Sorry Carlos. Keep on doing what you are doing. Some of us appreciate the effort.
 
I can appreciate the honesty Russ. Makes one think about the membership? Personally i am not concerned with the refund however this will weigh in along with what ever else happens over the next year to weather I continue my membership
 
This was wrong. No doubt. If Russ was called, others should have been given the same opportunity. Carlos, you f'd up, man.

I'm not going argue this twenty times. I am definitely biased because I know and respect Carlos as a friend, a good businessman and just a good human being.. What you have done here is wrong, Russ. The man puts his heart and soul into this org and for some reason thinks its important to have you onboard. I do not share that belief. That is no offense meant to you. There are at least ten contractors in the UAMCC that make you and me look like very small potatoes. One member near me has a 6000 square foot facility with multiple trucks and does very serious volume. There are others that have been in the industry 20+ years. Ron is one of them.

Instead of you being flattered by the guy trying to have a BBS icon come onboard, you toss him under the bus. I don't know what your motivation is. Maybe you want to be the hero that "exposes" the UAMCC or Carlos. Who knows. The man reached out to you and made a mistake in his approach. If any one of you doubts his intentions, get to know the man. He puts 14 hours a day into this organization. Its a paid position. I'm guessing Carlos averages about 50 cents per hour. All he wants to do is get the organization on its feet so we all have a voice. I could care less whether you believe that or not. it is what it is.

It saddens me that a guy who has integrity, honesty and the puts the benefit of others in front of his own well being is attacked as some slime ball. You couldn't be more wrong. I don't play the good ole boy nor the politically correct games. Jeff does and most of you know and trust him. Do you believe Jeff to be an idiot or unscrupulous? A crook? Naive? He'd have to be one of these to constantly lay out his reputation saying again and again that the org is legit.

The road to hell is truly paved with good intentions. Sorry Carlos. Keep on doing what you are doing. Some of us appreciate the effort.

So If I understand you correctly Carlos was wrong for doing it. (as if this was the first time) but Russ was more wrong for not keeping his mouth shut.

Jeeez.

You said before that we're alike in some ways Ken. You're wrong. We're nothing alike.

I don't have any doubt Carlos is a great guy, I feel for him. But it was you guys on the TT that taught him that this is an acceptable way to do business. You wouldn't listen to anybody who questioned the favoritism and exclusive method of operation you guys were putting into place.

That kind of MOI can and WILL lead to more of this, but you can bet they will be told to keep their mouth shut just like you just told Russ..
 
There are VERY FEW people on these boards that I trust. All but 1 that I trust I know personally. Though I have met and spoken with Carlos I havent done so enough to really know him............but he is that 1 that I do trust. I have a knack for smelling BS and have no problem calling them out. Carlos smells just fine.:)
 
Ken, I have never meet you and don't want to judge you. But your post speaks poorly of yourself. I think what Russ did was honest and open. I do not believe an organization should conduct business as UMACC did. I once belonged to PWNA and heard of some shady deals and did not renew my membership. I applaud Russ for his morals and honesty. I have thought about joining UMACC and was unsure. Now I know it's not the organization for me.
 
Ken, I have never meet you and don't want to judge you. But your post speaks poorly of yourself. I think what Russ did was honest and open. I do not believe an organization should conduct business as UMACC did. I once belonged to PWNA and heard of some shady deals and did not renew my membership. I applaud Russ for his morals and honesty. I have thought about joining UMACC and was unsure. Now I know it's not the organization for me.

Makes you think about it doesn't it. Wonder if this will affect the Orlando Conference turnout. The details that will follow in the few weeks will determine the trip for me or not, either way were going to orlando that week and hopefully the air will be cleared so we can all "Wash Together" not Wash Together for a Price thats Determined for Us and chosen contractors. Since when do i get to Call Bob and tell him what I will pay for a skid.
 
Im a lowballer...I have an award that says so. How come I wasn't called to play? :cool: Hahaha!
 
umacc is a fine organazition.......Calling for a run on the Bank is nuts ...
I suspect they (Umacc) will be around for a long time ......anybody suggesting people ask for a refund is trying to Destroy (undermine) this organaziation :)
 
I hope UAMCC puts all you guys out of business with all there underhanded shady deals and all the concrete of the world goes uncleaned and falls apart and sends the world into a terrible downward spiral
 
I would hate to see any organization fall. It is good that this was brought to our attention now instead of later so people are aware of what is going on and how things are happening so people can make up their own minds.
 
Carlos did nothing wrong, if he did me and MANY other UAMCC members are wrong too. I have called Russ, and I can name others that are here on PWI and not that have called Russ, you know what we have called or talked to in person or even on the BB's about the benefits to many contractors, NOT just Russ. I have told contractors who ask about the UAMCC, that national companies have in the past called, I have told contractors that a national deal may be in the works, keep your eyes and ears open, you should join. So what

Russ has called me and asked about Carlos and the UAMCC so I tell him what I think. Russ has even said to me a couple times he should join and has said he was going to join and I have passed that on. Russ called today that’s why I am surprised with this thread. So like with any other contractor that I talk to that shows interest in the UAMCC I tell them what I think the benefits are, from our RFP agent getting RFPs from all over the country, to a 20% discount on a fricking rent a car or using the UAMCC logo on advertising and yes I have and many others have told contractors there are things coming up or what has already passed that they might of been able to have. Just like Carlos did

He showed interest so the way I see it, it wasn’t NO shady back room deal like its being made out to be, it was just contractors sharing with other contractors

I don't see the big deal for UAMCC members sharing what they know, to help a contractor that’s interested or thinking of joining and who are asking why they should join. Jack in The Box wasn’t named it was just something is coming. I am sure there are UAMCC members that are here on PWI, that will vouch that I have and other UAMCC members have said things are coming, heck. I and many others are proud to be working on and being a part of the best PWing in the nation today. I hate to use the word salesmanship, but when someone calls and shows interest, you sell them on the Org, plain & simple

I have known Carlos for years on these BB's, became good friends with him over the past 2 plus years and joined in when asked with the UAMCC, I have had countless conference calls with him and the transition team about the UAMCC, I talk to him almost daily about the UAMCC, Family, Friends, Business and more UAMCC talking. Carlos's integrity I would put up to anyones, he's an honorable man trying to do the best he can and I think he with the help of the team and many contractors members are doing a great job.

Russ told me he was going to join before, now he doesn’t want to join, that of course is his choice , but if the next contractor calls I expect that I Carlos or any other member will tell and sell the benefits of the org. The UAMCC and its proud members will just keep on trucking

I like Russ, but NO matter what he says in his post, Carlos is a straight up and hard working man and thats a fact. There are NO choosen few or big names the UAMCC has been and will continue to be transparent and move forward for contractors

I just had to comment have a nice day and carry on.
 
Jeff some people dont get it and dont want to get it and you guys should just save your breathe here. To some you will always be hurting the industry and they will see no value. Tell those to piss off, who cares.
 
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