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    fast food parking lot - cleaning and bidding advice

    Hi,

    First posting here... (2nd if you count my intro post)

    I have a job to do at a fast food franchise (single location). The owner is a friend, so we haven't bid the project yet, but have looked at it and done some testing.

    The drive thru and parking lot is all concrete - 18k sq. ft. total. The customer wants it all cleaned. Several questions:

    1 - what's the best way to bid it (initial clean-up and ongoing service)? I've seen Ron's sample ff contracts - thanks! still struggling a bit on reasonable pricing and service intervals for the entire parking lot - see details below.

    2 - what's the best way to clean it?
    - There are gum spots (stains) - thousands - that won't come up - even with a 15 degree or turbo nozzle at 3500 PSI and 250 degrees. Maybe not gum?
    - There are some black streaks. According to the manager, this is from the employees washing the interior floor and squeegy it out the door and let it drain down the parking lot. When testing those, degreaser doesn't touch them.
    - What should be used on the bulk parking lot as far as soap/chemicals? I've read a number of posts suggesting sodium hypochloriate before/after, but even using this, the parking lot still needs about 4 passes w/ the surface cleaner - on the test spot anyway.

    Surely I have left some questions out. Thanks in advance for any advice!
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    You need caustic to cut it. I do some fast food places that want the parking lot done also. I sold them on every two weeks with 1/4 of the parking lot each time. They jumped on it and been doing that way for over a year now.

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    It can be dangerous. Check out some old posts. There is picture of Russ Spence with a nasty caustic burn. The old posts will be a big help.

    Good Luck

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    Like the idea on the sales strategy - keeps the bill from being so high. Every two weeks though? What's a reasonable target for the total yearly expenditure? From what I understand, the degreaser I have is a caustic. It didn't touch it. Thanks!
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    It probably has some caustic in it but it's not near strong enough. If you are diluting it, try it straight. Fast food places need it every two weeks. Once they see the difference it makes you won't have to worry about them changing it.

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    sounds like you need hot water as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaAllstars View Post
    Like the idea on the sales strategy - keeps the bill from being so high. Every two weeks though? What's a reasonable target for the total yearly expenditure? From what I understand, the degreaser I have is a caustic. It didn't touch it. Thanks!
    if it has caustic in it and you get it on your skin and the skin stays in tact its not very strong.

    I mix mine strong, the downstream it with a 12% injector, 30 gallons of mix last a good while and does a great job.

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    A little 411 on the caustic, keep a bottle of vinegar with you, just the cheap white kind in a gallon jug is OK. Get caustic on you, rinse well with the vintager first, then with water. I have been using a strong caustic for many years, and have got it on me many times.

    Take a little test, put a little s-hydro on your finger tip, rub your fingers together, they will feel very slippery, now try to rinse off with water, they just get more slippery, not put the vintager on you finger tip, caustic is neutralized and your fingers will not be slippery any more.

    This was told to me by my chemis a long time ago and has been a rule for us for the last 8 years.
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    We keep a couple of gallons of white vinegar and a 2 liter coke on the rigs as well.The citric acid in the coke will also neutralize and isn't nearly as bad smelling as vinegar hear your face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ Spence View Post
    if it has caustic in it and you get it on your skin and the skin stays in tact its not very strong.

    I mix mine strong, the downstream it with a 12% injector, 30 gallons of mix last a good while and does a great job.
    Hey Russ how much caustic do you use in 30 gallons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hemric View Post
    Hey Russ how much caustic do you use in 30 gallons.
    ahhhhhh, alot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hemric View Post
    Hey Russ how much caustic do you use in 30 gallons.
    ahhhhhh, alot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hemric View Post
    Hey Russ how much caustic do you use in 30 gallons.
    ahhhhhh, alot?

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