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    I'm getting chased on my Swabby.

    Here is one of my guys chasing me..OK he is holding the hose to the Swabby. Just last month I finally showed these two how to use the Swabby but man I love using this machine. We now call the machine the "Turbo Surfer" since its been changed some.
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    This was an inside Tennis court that we cleaned with very hot water 200 degrees with maybe 800psi at most hitting the surface, We used a house wash mixed with alot of soap to loosed up the dirt.

    This job paid us about a $1000 but it took around 6 hrs because we had to sweep and suck out all the water, I couldn't reclaim this because the deck was to high to form a suction.
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    How high was the deck off the ground?

    What about a floating rubber seal to extend the deck to the surface but out of the way of the spray bars?

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    A dual-shell plastic or rubber deck extension so it seals and can cause a vacuum.

    Just an idea.

    I would love to try out one of those machines, sure would make large areas go a lot faster!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    How high was the deck off the ground?

    What about a floating rubber seal to extend the deck to the surface but out of the way of the spray bars?

    Or

    A dual-shell plastic or rubber deck extension so it seals and can cause a vacuum.

    Just an idea.

    I would love to try out one of those machines, sure would make large areas go a lot faster!
    Hey Chris well today that is not an option since I sold my Reclaiming rig but I did keep my Turbo Surfer which is a belt driven deck machine and man its fast. One of these days I'll bring it to one of Ron RT's and let you'll try it cause its a trip and fast to
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    Great job John, John were can I get a Hover wash to purchase?, I see that www.cleanupamerica.com website has been under maintenance for a months.

    Any leads on used ones?

    You are pushing 8gpm through the machine with 2 spray bars with 2 nozzles each?

    Great ideas Chris!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clean County PW View Post
    This was an inside Tennis court that we cleaned with very hot water 200 degrees with maybe 800psi at most hitting the surface, We used a house wash mixed with alot of soap to loosed up the dirt.

    This job paid us about a $1000 but it took around 6 hrs because we had to sweep and suck out all the water, I couldn't reclaim this because the deck was to high to form a suction.
    Why couldn't you keep the lid low and lower the pressure? That would have let you create a suction at a lower PSI to the surface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clean County PW View Post
    Hey Chris well today that is not an option since I sold my Reclaiming rig but I did keep my Hover wash which is a belt driven deck machine and man its fast. One of these days I'll bring it to one of Ron RT's and let you'll try it cause its a trip and fast to

    Thanks John.

    Have you thought of making rigs like yours and selling them? That might be a good idea if there are no patents on it.

    Thanks again for the time on the phone the other day.

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    Hey Chris,
    No Sweat any time you need to call about anything always feel free. Actually me call the machine the Hover wash is really a friend of mines name for his machine. I still don't know what to call it. I am leaning towards the "Turbo Surfer" machine.

    I can still get this machine made by Bill Clemmons. He has patents on the machine and today we can call it whatever we want because it doesn't matter to him. He can build any machine towards the specs of what you want. He has that mind set and me personally I do not have that Creative ability of any amount of time to do something like that.

    I have to say this machine is probably 20 times faster then a push machine and in the large flatwork world it has worked wonders for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cleaner View Post
    Why couldn't you keep the lid low and lower the pressure? That would have let you create a suction at a lower PSI to the surface.
    You know Nick I thought about. What we did was use 40 degree tips instead of the usual 15 degree tips to bring down the pressure tremendously but since the surface was so smooth and we had there pumps and large squeeges it looked so easy to just blow the water out of there and pump where we had to along with the squeegee. who knew that was going to be our biggest problem because the surface was so flat the water would just spread out. It was a 4 hour learning mistake since the cleaning took no more then 2 hours.
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    Maybe one of those floor machines that clean the floors and squeegee up the water would have worked there, just to suck up the water?

    I wonder if the dirt would start sticking back down if it was not vacuumed up right away.

    Sometimes when doing large areas of concrete if you don't rinse quick enough, the dirt sticks back down and you have to use some pressure to get it loose again.

    Maybe if you rigged up a "V" shaped squeegee behind the spray deck and in the middle of the "V" at the back have the vacuum pic up maybe 1/4" off the ground, I think that is how some of the floor machines work.

    Did you get any video of the machine in action John? That would be cool to see!

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    I may only have short video's because we thought the camara was in picture mode. As for the rinsing part I just traded today that white trailer I had and in return I got a new open trailer. I'm looking to build on this ring the ability to Powerwash at 22-25 gpm at around 3000psi or of course much lower with larger orifices. This is going to be the begining of my hi power trailers.

    My goal is to have the ultimate parking garage cleaning set-up without reclaim then eventually with reclaim. I couldn't sell a reclaiming job because I refused to do it around the same money guys were getting that don't reclaim. So for now I am going to do the garages between 5-9 cents a square but be able to do them much faster and divert water where I have to.

    Time is money and thats what I am working on doing more of....Today.
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    John are the spray bars on your machine belt driven, what kind of swivels are on it. I'm building a riding surface cleaner on a zero turn frame and I'm in the deck/spray bar phase trying to figure out if I need to spin the bars with the motor or let the water pressure spin the bar.

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    Belt driven spray bars would make the job go way faster. I have been playing around with that for a year or so on a SC but still need to try to shave some weight off it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg/sd View Post
    John are the spray bars on your machine belt driven, what kind of swivels are on it. I'm building a riding surface cleaner on a zero turn frame and I'm in the deck/spray bar phase trying to figure out if I need to spin the bars with the motor or let the water pressure spin the bar.
    I have been tring to find that out too, Bill said they were not dueblins

    Quote Originally Posted by El Flojo View Post
    Belt driven spray bars would make the job go way faster. I have been playing around with that for a year or so on a SC but still need to try to shave some weight off it.
    Sounds good any pics that you feel comfortable sharing.

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    I have extra swivals in my garage so I will have to look to see what the make of them are. If your building a machine and you are mechanically inclined I would definetely make the bars belt driven because they clean much faster when the bars are driven into the direction the water is hitting the ground. The only downfall with belt driven bars is that you go thru a few more bars faster and alot more tips also because of the speed of the bars but your cleaning time is much faster and if you do large jobs the money made because of the speed is amazing.

    Here are a couple of pictures of my machine.
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    John thanks for the pictures that simplifies the thought process.

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    Thanks John,

    Greg looking forward to seeing the build.

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    Looks to me like they are just regular mower spindles drilled and tapped with a mosmatic swivel threaded to the shaft.

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