We really Need a Viable Organization - help Ty!!!!

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
Ty says he will start and org?

Could this be and org thats full of new tech stuff like WCRA?

New and exciting ideas and programs?

Some here are worried and caution Ty.

I fully support anything that will be clear and have a purpose and keep to the purpose.

Lets Help Ty by adding some advice.


here's my first one!!!

If you going to say you represent the industry do it....or at least make and effort.

Stay true to what you start... if your going NON-profit please stick to it. If you make it a profit stay with that.

Do not promise much, just offer what you can do best for the industry.

Remember your helping even your competitors and never run Scared.
 
I have an idea. How about if Ron & Ty both go into together on this new organization?

I'll help Ty, we need and outline at what he is going to do.

Help him not make the same mistakes that have been repeated over and over again and again.
 
In the bylaws, a person of significant influence within the organization( bod, officers) cannot be a distributor, manufacturer, inventor, supplier, etc., of a product(s) used in the industry. They are encouraged to be members, for the betterment of the organization and the diversity of it's body. The reason needs no explanation.

Education. The org should support a set of minimum standards, but should stay out of running the education. Leave that to someone that enjoys teaching and knows how to teach adult learners. We already support RT's and on the job trainings through this board so most of the work is already done.

The clear voice is going to be a problem. Today, I was reading a thread that talked about different chemical blends for different regions to clean roofs. Same cleaning situation, but different needs for different areas. I think that same thing needs to go into an org. What's good for Florida may not be good for Minnesota, and there needs to be a system in place that can make those differences OK, but still be a clear message from the org as a whole. National influence with local authority kind of thing.

This is what I see as a newbie.
 
In the bylaws, a person of significant influence within the organization( bod, officers) cannot be a distributor, manufacturer, inventor, supplier, etc., of a product(s) used in the industry. They are encouraged to be members, for the betterment of the organization and the diversity of it's body. The reason needs no explanation.

Education. The org should support a set of minimum standards, but should stay out of running the education. Leave that to someone that enjoys teaching and knows how to teach adult learners. We already support RT's and on the job trainings through this board so most of the work is already done.

The clear voice is going to be a problem. Today, I was reading a thread that talked about different chemical blends for different regions to clean roofs. Same cleaning situation, but different needs for different areas. I think that same thing needs to go into an org. What's good for Florida may not be good for Minnesota, and there needs to be a system in place that can make those differences OK, but still be a clear message from the org as a whole. National influence with local authority kind of thing.

This is what I see as a newbie.

Somebody should look this guy up. I think he has it right.
 
Thanks Ron. Just so the board knows, I would like to talk about my progress so far. I wanted to wait until all the trademarking was completed but I have already started the organization at the AZ Corp Commission. Still has not showed up yet because it takes some time. But we have chosen an organization name and started the company legally. I went with an LLC. So this org will not be non-profit. The reason for it not being a non-profit is because I have never started a non-profit. Plus it will take twice as long to set up. Besides, non-profit or profit I can still put all the income back into the organization and into causes that help improve the industry. Also, an LLC is best to protect the organization and myself from "the Darkside."

I have also already purchased a logo for the organization from Keith at KBK. The logo is AWESOME! Great for websites, t-shirts, and hats. I do not want to share the name of the organization and logo until I send in the trademark paper work. But I have expedited the company so I think I will have it all trademarked by the middle of June or so.

I am thinking about setting up this organization like our US govt. (but not in any of the bad ways!!) I would like Ron to be the President if he wants. But I see it only fair that we the people vote on the president, vice president, speaker of the house, and so on and so forth... My vote is for Ron. But every member will have the right to vote on the elected council. So PWI will be the organizations senate... We will also have a house of representatives, bill of rights, and a constitution. The constitution will protect all pressure washers in the organization and the environment. (All of this is still in the works and I have to see how it will all work out... But I figure, replicating the greatest Nation in the world will help us create the greatest organization in the world...)
What do you guys think about the gov't theme? This is our opportunity to run a govt correctly...

Hopefully, everyone is still on board! I will call you Ron when we have some more progress... But I have not forgot about it. I am working on it everyday in between running my company. By July at the latest there will be a new pressure washing organization in town. And PWI will help make it great.

I want everyone's feedback... let me know what you want out of an org... let me know how you think it should be run and what you want to see from it.

Leave me some feedback.... Please stay positive. This is an org for the PW's by PW's.

Thanks
 
Ron as president? I am on board as long as we check him out first and make sure he has enough trailers lol
 
Ty if you're serious (and I assume you are) and if you're READY, I will do a story on the organization for the upcoming issue of Pressure Cleaning Contractor (PCC Magazine). I will have to have all info/interviews in by NEXT Wednesday though. If that's too soon, we'll cover it in August.

www.PCCMagazine.com
 
You should look at ones qualifications, desire and fruit and let that be the qualifier if they can serve on the BOD, Officer or Chair. We keep getting into this same mess over, and over, and over, and over again because we keep using the same basic recipe for creating an org. Its time to do something radical if we are going to succeed. maybe it is time to reinvent the wheel.

AC
 
You should look at ones qualifications, desire and fruit and let that be the qualifier if they can serve on the BOD, Officer or Chair. We keep getting into this same mess over, and over, and over, and over again because we keep using the same basic recipe for creating an org. Its time to do something radical if we are going to succeed. maybe it is time to reinvent the wheel.

AC


+1,000,000,000
 
Thats funny but true, I remember Carlos when forming the UAMCC getting a copy of by-laws from Robert. We are attempting to copy losers org that have not worked in 20 years. Of course you put it more tactfully AC.

You should look at ones qualifications, desire and fruit and let that be the qualifier if they can serve on the BOD, Officer or Chair. We keep getting into this same mess over, and over, and over, and over again because we keep using the same basic recipe for creating an org. Its time to do something radical if we are going to succeed. maybe it is time to reinvent the wheel.

AC
 
+1,000,000,000

Thanks Celeste,

Ron, not loosers but not winning as well. I dont like just getting by. Not that they are but I feel we have so much talent out here that isnt being tapped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think it is the striking time to do something EXCELLENT. I think all of the .orgs should disolve, consolodate and become a better restructured org. Its death by acronym out there. Contractors need health insurance, disability insurance, discounts on workers comp and liability, we need benifits that stick and contractors that are responsible enough to keep up with paying for them.

We need standards, we need accountability, we need profitability, we need everyone from the contractor all the way up to the inventor to make a FINE living off of this great industry not just get by!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We need leadership! John Wayne kinda leadership! (not John Wayne Bobbitt)

AC
 
AC , never called anyone a Loser. The orgs model is a loser, if we do not open there eyes the dam thing will continue to negatively impact us all. Which by the way is a great model if you want contractors to fail so you can continue to sell new ones equipment each year. Oh and buy the remainder of there business cheap!!!

Thanks Celeste,

Ron, not loosers but not winning as well. I dont like just getting by. Not that they are but I feel we have so much talent out here that isnt being tapped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think it is the striking time to do something EXCELLENT. I think all of the .orgs should disolve, consolodate and become a better restructured org. Its death by acronym out there. Contractors need health insurance, disability insurance, discounts on workers comp and liability, we need benifits that stick and contractors that are responsible enough to keep up with paying for them.

We need standards, we need accountability, we need profitability, we need everyone from the contractor all the way up to the inventor to make a FINE living off of this great industry not just get by!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We need leadership! John Wayne kinda leadership! (not John Wayne Bobbitt)

AC
 
Ty if you're serious (and I assume you are) and if you're READY, I will do a story on the organization for the upcoming issue of Pressure Cleaning Contractor (PCC Magazine). I will have to have all info/interviews in by NEXT Wednesday though. If that's too soon, we'll cover it in August.

www.PCCMagazine.com


Thanks Allison. We are hoping to have the Org started by the Tampa RT on July 30th... So August edition would prob be better. If for some reason it takes longer than that then it will be released at the Phx RT in Sep...

But I really appreciate the offer and look forward to being a part of your magazine.
 
Thanks Allison. We are hoping to have the Org started by the Tampa RT on July 30th... So August edition would prob be better. If for some reason it takes longer than that then it will be released at the Phx RT in Sep...

But I really appreciate the offer and look forward to being a part of your magazine.

You're welcome. Steve and I plan to be in Tampa so it will be nice to talk in person. Best of luck!
 
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