Should You Turn your Competitors in if they are not Reclaiming?

Should you turn your Competition In?

  • YES

    Votes: 8 23.5%
  • NO

    Votes: 26 76.5%

  • Total voters
    34

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
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Our Fleet Pressure Washing is Environmentally Friendly

Details Pressure Wash is environmentally friendly by using VacuBoom Wash Water Recovery systems for our moble fleet pressure washing services.

The VacuBoom Wash Water Recovery systems are connected to our gas powered industrial vacuums mounted in each wash truck. When the wet vac system is turned on and connected to the placed VacuBoom, the boom tightly seals itself to the surface to collect the wash water. While the wash water is collecting, the vaccum draws the effluent through small port openings in the boom, and then places the wash water into our truck mounted holding tanks.

This procedure works very well on hard surfaces. When connected to the proper vacuum unit providing a large amount of lift, there is no better method of wash water collection.

Another method of environmental truck pressure washing is the use of a Drive-on Wash Mat. This mat provides a portable containment area which allows containment of any liquid that the pad catches. The Mat is laid on the ground with berms placed around the edges, creating a dike that prevents wash water from exiting onto the ground, and resembles a large children’s swimming pool. The truck drives onto this mat, is pressure washed, and as the clean unit drives off, a dirty unit drives on. During the pressure washing process the wash water is vacuumed into the holding tank in our truck. The contained wash water can then be extracted and treated. This “Drive on – Drive Off” model allows the user to enter and exit the pad while the berm is inflated. A secondary berm prevents fluids from exiting the pad as the vehicle drives over the berm.


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So, turn in fleetwash when they dont reclaim? Most of their customers know, but have deniability.
 
If you call in speeders on the interstate to 911 to report them, then yes, you should turn in your competitors.

If you call in to report that your neighbor washed his car on the driveway instead of the grass, then yes, you should turn in your competitors.

If you see an unmarked pickup truck arrive at your neighbor's house and work on his air conditioner and report that, then yes, you should turn in your competitor.

If you notice an expired license plate in front of you and call 911 to report it, then yes, turn in your competitor.

If you do those things above you are simply an azzhole. Just like you are if you turn in your competitors.

Turning in your competitors simply means you are too weak to sell your service to your customers on it's own merits and you have to cry to the authorities to try to make up for your pathetic salesmanship. It's just your next step towards business failure and going back to a paycheck job where you belong to free up the market for real contractors who mind their own business, put their nose to the grindstone and grind out a good living by doing the job better, faster and more economically palatable for their customers.

There's nothing wrong with pointing out TO YOUR CUSTOMERS how much better you do your job than your competitors. But subjecting your competitors to unnecessary interference and costs incurred by dealing with government agencies is a dirty move that I pray at night will be paid back tenfold in economic disaster for any contractor who dares to do it.

If we see a rape happening it's our duty to FIRST try to stop it, then report what we saw. With rape there is a VICTIM. There is no monetary gain for you to report a crime where a VICTIM has been harmed. What we are talking about are generally VICTIMLESS VIOLATIONS. Unless you go down stream of the work being done and see a bunch of dead fish in the water THERE IS NO VICTIM. Any REPORTING of this "crime" serves only to try to put money in your pocket by taking money out of your competor's pocket.

I hope anyone who agrees with me will join in praying that those who do such things and bring unnecessary government involvement and hardship into the lives of other contractors for the purpose of eventually putting more money in their own pocket reaps the reward of economic devastation and are exposed to their families as the weak, gutless, effeminate creature they really are.

Here's a simple way to remember MYOFB.

I probably just closed this thread down with that post. If you disagree, please, grow a pair and state your case instead of running off to mama (or some other softball throwing daisies and roses board) to complain about how horrible we are here at PWI.
 
So, turn in fleetwash when they dont reclaim? Most of their customers know, but have deniability.

Thats exactly the point, the customers know they are not complying to the very agreement they signed. Why because they believe there liability is reduced, unfairly they use these so-called threats to sell that customer but in the end assume the risk and never comply to the contract agreement.

This is another topic that some here do not even realize happens behind the scenes. They loose the job because they are not aware there customers are being told behind there back they are operating illegally.

So could false info by and org justifying this type of tactic be held liable in a court?
 
Yes turn them in. you have to assume Your competitors are willing to turn you in. Alls fair when it comes to my paycheck.
 
Yes turn them in. you have to assume Your competitors are willing to turn you in. Alls fair when it comes to my paycheck.

Scott, as usual, balls of steel. I still disagree and don't care whether anyone turns us in or not. We aren't doing anything illegal or improper, but someone will eventually TRY to turn us in for something whether we're legal or not. I can't go around worrying about that, I can only deal with my own ethics.
 
So its unethical to turn someone in for doing something illegal, especially when that person affects your lifestyle? I guess if someone breaks into your house and you catch them you'll just give them a wave and head on to bed?
 
Someone raping someone is a different story, the question is should we turn our cleaning professionals in for violating a law related to cleaning. ( not a criminal offense any citizen could do)

I have seen this in the past with some large contractors rating each other.
 
Not talking about raping, just a simple robbery.

My answer is still yes Ron.
 
I have mixed emotions about the subject. I bid 7 garages last year that requested full reclaim and did not get any of them but they were still done(without reclaim). If I turn in a contractor there will be another one to take his place. Its the property owners that I want to turn in but if you get that reputation you wont work at all.
 
I have mixed emotions about the subject. I bid 7 garages last year that requested full reclaim and did not get any of them but they were still done(without reclaim). If I turn in a contractor there will be another one to take his place. Its the property owners that I want to turn in but if you get that reputation you wont work at all.

Yeah the customer won't use u either.

Could we help each other by forming a group , not org but a group that handles awareness?

Orgs don't suck just the people running them.
 
Robbery is a crime with a victim Scott.

The competitor who uses his written off cell phone for personal calls is breaking the law and taking a chance on getting caught.

Meanwhile the tax money he saves over you he spends to out advertise you and takes some business you would have otherwise gotten.

Do you turn him in? Have you ever made a mistake on your taxes? Did you speed on the way to your job? Run a red light? What about that faded label on your chems? The employee who left his safety glasses on the truck? The tennis ball in the gun? The truck 15 lbs over weight? Under rated tires?

The list goes on and on. The reason this is considered different is because it seemes like an easy way to reduce your competition. In reality it is a recipe for disaster for our industry as a whole.


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I have been very tempted to either turn in a competitor or go in and underbid them or trash talk them to there customers because i have inside information. I just cant bring myself to do it even though they were doing ten times better than us in our market. That being said i do think we have a responsibility to take action if we see a person or a company doing something that is or could be devastating to the environment. By this i don't mean pressure washing a sidewalk with hot water without reclaim or washing a few cars with dish soap.
 
Yeah the customer won't use u either.

Could we help each other by forming a group , not org but a group that handles awareness?

Orgs don't suck just the people running them.

By forming a group and setting standards you solve the problem in time. the group idea works and and benifits all in volved as it grows it sets the standards of the industry. As customers find out that groups excist they go more and more to companys that work in the groups. A lot of work i do is by repatation of the companies that work with me. Big companies come to me and i advise what firm will do the job best. Form a group and benifit from it
 
Tony and Ron,

If the law is to reclaim, and your spend time and money to comply which raises your costs and you lose business to a competitor who does not comply and therefore can charge less, YOU are the victim.

Everything you stated above are victimless crimes. Why not just allow illegals to roam free and take jobs because they charge less for their services? Wait we do and we're pissed and ill turn them in once the government starts presecuting.
 
naw i wouldnt rat them out.....I know some people go out of there way to pry into someone elses business and get them caught up. No one on here can tell me they've always been %100 complient. I just havent been the one to call the cops on someone for everything I see. Yea if its a drunk driver, or something serious. But not for that.
 
When are you going to comply?



if your washing pollution off homes its hazordous,

Tony and Ron,

If the law is to reclaim, and your spend time and money to comply which raises your costs and you lose business to a competitor who does not comply and therefore can charge less, YOU are the victim.

Everything you stated above are victimless crimes. Why not just allow illegals to roam free and take jobs because they charge less for their services? Wait we do and we're pissed and ill turn them in once the government starts presecuting.
 
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