I haven't posted on here since the Tampa seminar due to a lot of distractions but ive finally got my business up and running and this roof cleaning is the easiest thing in the world to sell...Now, I currently use a 12V boat wash down pump for my roof cleaning. I've posted a link to it before. I believe it's 3gpm and 45 psi. When cleaning, if I turn off the ball valve, the pump shuts off due to pressure building up (I love this feature because it saves the pump).. However, when spraying, the pump does jolts of pressure. It's not contant (this annoys me like crazy).. It puts a spray then builds up pressure to do it again. Could this be because my hose is too long, low battery, something else?? Here's a gas powered pump that I'm looking into. It's made for caustic chemicals, can run dry, and is low pressure. http://www.rittenhouse.ca/asp/Product.asp?PG=41It's the same price as Pauls dual 12v pump and 1/2 price of the "roofster." Or spend $ buying the recommended delevn n fatboy annually etc.. I want to have something that will last but can clean from the ground. The pump I'm using now wouldn't reach the gutter from the ground. I didn't buy it for roof cleaning, I just had it laying around. Its time to buy a quality pump! Gary
Contemplating a new roof pump...
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Doug Rucker
Roundtable Host 2009
Gary, I cant seem to get your link to come up, says there is an internal error and it cant be displayed. Not sure if the problem is on my end or the links. If I would you I would at least call Paul and ask about your pump problem. Even you dont buy anything from Paul he will still help you out, his customer service is great.
One of the many things I like about my system from Paul, and will be the same with any 12v system is the fact that you dont have a gas engine running when cleaning a roof. You can communicate with your ground man without having to yell, and if customers come up to ask questions you can have a converstaion with them right from the roof.
The system Paul sells can run dry and if I remember correctly you can also run casutics through it but verify that w Paul. You also get 300 feet of hose, gun noxzzles, wands, everything you need to clean a roof except the battery and water tank. Also this system is every bit as good as the Fat Boy. I have a Fat Boy but I never us it anymore since I got Pual's system. I easily get 40 feet distance and on some good non windy days up to 50 feet.
One of the many things I like about my system from Paul, and will be the same with any 12v system is the fact that you dont have a gas engine running when cleaning a roof. You can communicate with your ground man without having to yell, and if customers come up to ask questions you can have a converstaion with them right from the roof.
The system Paul sells can run dry and if I remember correctly you can also run casutics through it but verify that w Paul. You also get 300 feet of hose, gun noxzzles, wands, everything you need to clean a roof except the battery and water tank. Also this system is every bit as good as the Fat Boy. I have a Fat Boy but I never us it anymore since I got Pual's system. I easily get 40 feet distance and on some good non windy days up to 50 feet.
http://www.rittenhouse.ca/asp/Product.asp?PG=41
the link put "its" in it on accident when i was typing from my iPad. I did get to see Paul's system in Tampa while I was there. I did like it but if I'm going to spend $700 on it, I'd rather spend an extra $100 for a more reliable gas motor/pump assembly... Also, his website doesnt offer that kit anymore, you have to buy some other kit for over $1000. I already have a tank, 200' hose, reel, etc.. I just need a pump. I don't have the room on my trailer for an air compressor so an air powered pump is out of the question. I use a Marine Optima Battery to run my current pump and would use the same if I went the 12V route, if not, than the Gas Powered one would do fine as well without it.
the link put "its" in it on accident when i was typing from my iPad. I did get to see Paul's system in Tampa while I was there. I did like it but if I'm going to spend $700 on it, I'd rather spend an extra $100 for a more reliable gas motor/pump assembly... Also, his website doesnt offer that kit anymore, you have to buy some other kit for over $1000. I already have a tank, 200' hose, reel, etc.. I just need a pump. I don't have the room on my trailer for an air compressor so an air powered pump is out of the question. I use a Marine Optima Battery to run my current pump and would use the same if I went the 12V route, if not, than the Gas Powered one would do fine as well without it.
Doug Rucker
Roundtable Host 2009
Here is the link to Pauls homepage showing the system for $697.00 on the first page.
http://powerwashstore.com/?mainURL=/store/category/btvf/Engine-_Cold_Water.html
That gas pump there looks good. Good price too. Is that similar to what pest control guy's use? Keep us updated on how it works out for you.
http://powerwashstore.com/?mainURL=/store/category/btvf/Engine-_Cold_Water.html
That gas pump there looks good. Good price too. Is that similar to what pest control guy's use? Keep us updated on how it works out for you.
Guy Blackmon
Roundtable Host 2009
I would do more research on this pump. I also like how compact the unit is but am concerned that I see no mention of "Vinton" compounds used in it. I would ask specific questions on P.H. ranges of the pump, highs & lows.
If you do a lot of roof cleaning then you would need a heavy duty system, but if you wash 4 or 5 a month a 12v makes much more since IMHO.
If you do a lot of roof cleaning then you would need a heavy duty system, but if you wash 4 or 5 a month a 12v makes much more since IMHO.
Who would you call guy? Bob
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Guy Blackmon
Roundtable Host 2009
Yea Bob's got great equipment & super customer service. I use Bob's set up and just bought one of Paul's duel pump systems from William. Very impressed with Paul's duel pump set up and can't wait to put it in to service.
Christopher
Moderator
Have you tried calling Paul about this?
He will sell you a pump as he sold me a couple of different pumps, he does not only sell the systems, you will find out other great info like this if you call him and talk to him about this.
Good stuff chris , how much are the alternatives?
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Christopher
Moderator
I agree with Guy on this, there is no mention of Viton parts, Santoprene parts, etc....
Just about every pump sprayer on the market says that it will handle pesticides, fertilizer, etc... like what this pump is mentioning.......in other words, it probably will not last in a More Harsh environment like roof cleaning. SH is more corrosive than the common acids and caustics because of it's nature. That is why there are only a few pumps made for the SH use or engineered for it's use like the air diaphragm pumps.
I would not Spend that kind of money with the advice of their salesman, helper that answers the phone or anyone else in that company unless they have actually talked to the manufacturer about the specficif use with SH which they probably have no clue of what you are talking about.
Anyone can sell a pump and say this and that but when the pump falls apart from corrosion and you want to get it fixed and the cost is almost the price of a new pump because the parts, diaphragms, bolts, etc..... are not rated for the chemical you used in it, it is your fault as you did not find out first what it can handle (even though you asked them at the place when you ordered the pump and took their word for it even though they just answer phones and really have no clue) so that is why contractors read these bbs's, ask other contractors what they use, what is good and stick to what works as some guys have been burned by things that were not rated for the corrosiveness of SH.
Good Luck.
Just about every pump sprayer on the market says that it will handle pesticides, fertilizer, etc... like what this pump is mentioning.......in other words, it probably will not last in a More Harsh environment like roof cleaning. SH is more corrosive than the common acids and caustics because of it's nature. That is why there are only a few pumps made for the SH use or engineered for it's use like the air diaphragm pumps.
I would not Spend that kind of money with the advice of their salesman, helper that answers the phone or anyone else in that company unless they have actually talked to the manufacturer about the specficif use with SH which they probably have no clue of what you are talking about.
Anyone can sell a pump and say this and that but when the pump falls apart from corrosion and you want to get it fixed and the cost is almost the price of a new pump because the parts, diaphragms, bolts, etc..... are not rated for the chemical you used in it, it is your fault as you did not find out first what it can handle (even though you asked them at the place when you ordered the pump and took their word for it even though they just answer phones and really have no clue) so that is why contractors read these bbs's, ask other contractors what they use, what is good and stick to what works as some guys have been burned by things that were not rated for the corrosiveness of SH.
Good Luck.
Apple Roof Cleaning
Roof Cleaning Instructor
Oh HELL NO, I wish I would have seen this to warn you about the Hypro D 52 Pumps!
Yes, it will work for awhile, IF you rinse it out as SOON as you finish spraying a roof, but it will soon develop leaks, and then the real fun starts!
Valve springs will break, diaphragm bolts will crack, and it will soon leak all over the place.
If you are ONLY doing shingle roofs, 12 volt pumps like the Delavan Fat Boy are great. But for tile roofs, I like air diaphragm pumps best because you can use very small nozzles on them, or crack the ball valve partly open, w/o fear of them cycling on and off, and burning up pressure switches or relays.
Kiloman
New member
+1 on the air you can use it for everything and it will not let you down.I have the all flo and it has seen its share of acids,caustics an plenty of roof mix.Still clicken like a chicken.Doug the noise isnt ever an issue mine plus when your working you need the customer in the house until its time for inspection and check time.
Doug Rucker
Roundtable Host 2009
These "customers" are out walking the street, jogging, bike riding, when I am on the roof. They'll walk right up in the yard and ask for me to come give them an estimate when I am done. The customers that I am cleaning for are rarely home, and I have already been paid so there is no "inspection" time until they get home and I've already left.
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AC Lockyer
New member
We use the FloJet Penteflex pumps.
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Apple Roof Cleaning
Roof Cleaning Instructor
I dont even like to have the customers there.
I am not a Low Baller who needs to "Up Sell" anything else to make money.
I make my money cleaning roofs. Here in Tampa, those who Low Ball Roofs in hopes of getting additional work to make their profit soon have this message on their phone number "I am sorry, but the number you have reached in area code 813 is no longer a working number"
I can understand what Doug is saying about the noise of an Air Pump. I guess I am kind of used to the sound, and I like it. When my pump is running, it reminds me we are making money.
I have BOTH a FloJet Pentaflex 12 volt pump AND a 1 Inch Hastelloy Air Pump with a Monster Compressor on my Truck.
Both pump systems are fully operational. We run the 12 volt pump of the Dual Batteries of our Mitsubishi Fuso Flatbed.
Since we have dual 300 gallon tanks, I suppose we could run BOTH pumps at the same time, if I had some separate hose for the 12 volt pump.
I never have though.
The FloJet Pentaflex is about equivalent to a Delavan Fat Boy in performance, and perhaps exceeds it ?
No matter, it is just a back up pump for us, for the unlikely event our air pump system goes down.
I agree with the poster who said " if you are cleaning 3 to 5 roofs a week, get a 12 volt pump, if not, get an air pump".
LOL, I always get a chuckle out of the ones "who don't have enough room for an air pump set up"
Hey, if it makes me money, I will make room!
I am not a Low Baller who needs to "Up Sell" anything else to make money.
I make my money cleaning roofs. Here in Tampa, those who Low Ball Roofs in hopes of getting additional work to make their profit soon have this message on their phone number "I am sorry, but the number you have reached in area code 813 is no longer a working number"
I can understand what Doug is saying about the noise of an Air Pump. I guess I am kind of used to the sound, and I like it. When my pump is running, it reminds me we are making money.
I have BOTH a FloJet Pentaflex 12 volt pump AND a 1 Inch Hastelloy Air Pump with a Monster Compressor on my Truck.
Both pump systems are fully operational. We run the 12 volt pump of the Dual Batteries of our Mitsubishi Fuso Flatbed.
Since we have dual 300 gallon tanks, I suppose we could run BOTH pumps at the same time, if I had some separate hose for the 12 volt pump.
I never have though.
The FloJet Pentaflex is about equivalent to a Delavan Fat Boy in performance, and perhaps exceeds it ?
No matter, it is just a back up pump for us, for the unlikely event our air pump system goes down.
I agree with the poster who said " if you are cleaning 3 to 5 roofs a week, get a 12 volt pump, if not, get an air pump".
LOL, I always get a chuckle out of the ones "who don't have enough room for an air pump set up"
Hey, if it makes me money, I will make room!
Doug Rucker
Roundtable Host 2009
Yep I took it as u joking. Didn't mean to sound defensive. Just wanted to clarify which customer I was talking about. The kind u can't control when they walk up on you. It's all good. No problem here.
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roof cleaning memphi
New member
Lori turned me on to the Northstar pump sold at Northern Tool. I like it. Also it comes with a one year replacement warranty and is about a hundred bucks. For another fifteen you can get a two year warranty. Just my thoughts.
Apple Roof Cleaning
Roof Cleaning Instructor
Good Post Rodney!
We have seen those pumps for awhile, and they work OK for roof cleaning, every now and then. For a person just starting out in the roof cleaning business, they are great. It appears Northern Tool is having the Chinese private label 12 volt pumps for them.
But who cares, because Northern Tool will stand behind these pumps, just be SURE to rinse them out well before you return them ? The smell of Bleach can really ruin a Party.