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Would any contractors in the St Johns water managment [northeast & northeast central florida] district like to attend a compliance seminar with the water managment district / DEP. To explain stormwater system discharge regulations ? This seminar & info could be a major coup for compliant contractors in north florida. Let the bashing begin.
 
I would be interested. I haven't spoken with the DEP in a long time. It might be nice to know what has changed. Is one scheduled already? or are you trying to make one happen?
 
Would any contractors in the St Johns water managment [northeast & northeast central florida] district like to attend a compliance seminar with the water managment district / DEP. To explain stormwater system discharge regulations ? This seminar & info could be a major coup for compliant contractors in north florida. Let the bashing begin.

Why would anyone Bash you? I just want to ask why you plan on Polluting the the storm water?
 
If there is enough interest generated.
 
Would any contractors in the St Johns water managment [northeast & northeast central florida] district like to attend a compliance seminar with the water managment district / DEP. To explain stormwater system discharge regulations ? This seminar & info could be a major coup for compliant contractors in north florida. Let the bashing begin.

It was good Talking today , look forward to you getting something started in Florida thats responsible.

Even though some here think you can discharge down the storm drain its not responsible if can be done a better way.

I understand people want to argue what's right and wrong. Many places have different issues, some more strict that others with enforcement. The reality is we need responsible methods between enforcement at this industry.

Much mis-information over the years about collection and filtering.

There are differences with vehicle washing versus sidewalk cleaning.

Adding contaminates is also another factor. If your adding things to the wash process your going to have issues.


Industrial cleaning & Parking structure is also a place pre-cleaning will help reduce contaminants prior to wash process.

If properties are not built compliant and not connected it doesn't mean these common sense steps are not followed.

Any type of built in system on property will not work if chemicals and heavy oils and grease that could have been pre-cleaned.

As we evolve as eviro cleaners education is needed to educate the cleaners and the citys.

Everyones first reaction is that cities know what they are talking about. These storm folks in some cases have not a clue about BMP's and often miss-interpretation is a given.

I urge you to confront the storm water authority. I only ask to look at one thing, do not start off by talking about the competitors and how much they pollute. Talk about how we can be the solution to reducing pollution prior to in ever hitting the MS4.
 
I highly recommend anyone that wants to learn a good all around Wash water Control take this certification course.

Doesn't matter if you have been doing this for 20 years, I learned something new every time I go.

Wash Water Control Certifications Course!!!
 
I highly recommend anyone that wants to learn a good all around Wash water Control take this certification course.

Doesn't matter if you have been doing this for 20 years, I learned something new every time I go.

Wash Water Control Certifications Course!!!
San Diego in November sounds great...but a little distant. I love Jerry and all, but that's a ways to travel. Any chance of offering the cert. at an east coast NCE event?
 
San Diego in November sounds great...but a little distant. I love Jerry and all, but that's a ways to travel. Any chance of offering the cert. at an east coast NCE event?

We announce the 2012 & 2013 schedule soon!


Ron Musgraves text me 480-5225227 ???Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
About 15 years ago I helped a guy clean a dam in S.C. We used water from the lake, filtered it, and he hung in a harness over the dam with a wand. The wash water flowed down the dam wall into the river below. Essentially, he made the water go over the dam rather than under... He obviously added the grime from the dam and he heated the water. Would that be compliant? Would it be compliant to wash docks with filtered lake water? Seawater?
 
Dam good cleaning.. and certified

the "best thing to do"..
is use reasonable technology.. But, BID IT BOTH WAYS !!
If the "property manager" is able to get "stormWater Dept" to "sign off on it" ..that is one price.

And the "real bid" is using instant-capture..
.. like the 12" or 21" Vacuuming Surface Cleaners..
Charge what you need to charge, but TEACH the property manager just what level of liability is at hand,
and help them "solve their problem".

Oh yeah..
.. and show them your Wash Water Control Certification. Eh?
 
About 15 years ago I helped a guy clean a dam in S.C. We used water from the lake, filtered it, and he hung in a harness over the dam with a wand. The wash water flowed down the dam wall into the river below. Essentially, he made the water go over the dam rather than under... He obviously added the grime from the dam and he heated the water. Would that be compliant? Would it be compliant to wash docks with filtered lake water? Seawater?

How big was it and how long did it take to clean it? Pm me if you want, I am looking at one to bid on soon.

Thanks.
 
The heating of the water may be an issue in theory. In actuality it will have zero effect on the environment for the fish as it is such a short term rise that will be almost immediately dissipated by the water flow. The dam cleaning process seems like a reasonable cleaning method and should be approved but I am sure it would require a special permit from the DNR or similar body. Docks and decks may be a tricker one because of the particulates that you could introduce into the water stream usually that reqires recollection (wood ones).
 
It's ok to clean the dam with dirty lake water.

But once you introduce man made water (tap water) you have to collect it all, filter it three times, pump it into a truck and drink it in the parking lot since you can't transport it.

You may then pee it all into the sewer system after allowing the bowl to sit sufficient time to reach ambient temps from the elevated 98.6 temp.

Pretty simple.

I'll be offering certifications for that in the bathroom at the next RT.

"Nothing in the Brain that's sane". That's the new comeback for the drain/rain fallacy.
 
That was funny Tony! hahahahaha

"Nothing in the Brain that's sane". That's the new comeback for the drain/rain fallacy. That seems mandatory for some of the regulators and vendors out there trying to get contractors to believe their crap and buy not-needed expensive systems.
 
Thank you Ron for taking your time to speak to myself & the local FDEP engineer. I would like to hand the ball to Ron & NCE for providing the info & offer from FDEP. I think a state by state DEP outreach program would eliminate any other "Houston" senarios and in short order compliant mobile cleaning contractors country wide would become known as the "solution not the problem". BMPS set by state DEP governing authority with ancilary & or maintenance cleaning parameters that are cut & dried with no current ORG & or distributor influence.
 
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