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    Welcome Phil Kircher As the government Expert in Procuring Agreements

    If you guys have questions feel free to ask Phil
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    Phil, What is the typical procedure to get on the bid list for govt. contracts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Kassander View Post
    Phil, What is the typical procedure to get on the bid list for govt. contracts?
    I would direct the question in a new thread Paul


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Musgraves View Post
    If you guys have questions feel free to ask Phil
    Thanks Ron, looking forward to working with the group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Kassander View Post
    Phil, What is the typical procedure to get on the bid list for govt. contracts?
    It depends on what kind of business you want to go for. I would start by going to your state, city and county government procurement offices to see what they require. Some require that you pre register with them while others have no such limitations. Most probably have web sites that announce bids that come up and you shouldy be able to register on those sites to get email alerts when new bids are issued.

    There is no bid list for federal government projects. They announce projects on Fed Biz Opps.
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    Phil,
    Wgy is it that the government generally has asked for a IKECA certification for kitchen hood cleaners when it is clearly evident that IKECA does nothing to train it's members to clean correctly and there are other clearly better certification programs out there or a self documentation and performance programs the government has in place to keep contractors accountable.
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    Its pretty Obvious why, so there members stand out from the rest of the industry as the certified well trained companies.

    We all know this isnt always the case, but they are attempting to achieve this status. It all takes time

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexy View Post
    Phil,
    Wgy is it that the government generally has asked for a IKECA certification for kitchen hood cleaners when it is clearly evident that IKECA does nothing to train it's members to clean correctly and there are other clearly better certification programs out there or a self documentation and performance programs the government has in place to keep contractors accountable.
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    I thought Phil was going to chime in with the government's take on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexy View Post
    I thought Phil was going to chime in with the government's take on it.
    He is , you didn't ask a question about Gov contracts. Please do not bait him in debate about the misuse these orgs have.

    We all know good ole boys games go on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Musgraves View Post
    He is , you didn't ask a question about Gov contracts. Please do not bait him in debate about the misuse these orgs have.

    We all know good ole boys games go on.
    It was a question about government contracts. I have 2 RFP for hood cleaning that both specificly address an IKECA certification. This summer Henrico County VA had the same wording for thier schools yet when asked they can not say why they ask for a IKECA certification. In speaking to teh GAO who oversees government contracts they also have no guidelines at all on the issue.
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    I am not familiar with that orginazation so keep that in mind with my reply.

    Generally when an agency puts a certification into a specification it is done at the request of the buyer. They do this to make sure that the contract is awarded to a company that specializes in the kind of work the contract calls for.

    I would also say that since most buyers are unaware of all the different certifications that exist for all the different products / services that they buy, some company that has this certification has probably been in touch with the buyer and advised them to include it in the specification. If I was in the kitchen exhaust cleaning business and had this certification, that is exactly what I would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexy View Post
    It was a question about government contracts. I have 2 RFP for hood cleaning that both specificly address an IKECA certification. This summer Henrico County VA had the same wording for thier schools yet when asked they can not say why they ask for a IKECA certification. In speaking to teh GAO who oversees government contracts they also have no guidelines at all on the issue.
    If your company is not certified then your bid will not be considered in compliance with the specification when the bids are opened. Your only option is to attempt to get that removed from the requirement prior to the bid due date. You would need to write a protest letter to the buyer stating that you believe there is no reason to include the certification in the specification. The buyer would then have to review the issue and justify its inclusion.

    You may or may not win that battle. They could agree with you and remove it from the requirement or they could say that they believe its important enough and leave it in. That is entirely up the the buyer.
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