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offdutyfireman

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Who would have thought that I would be prevented from replying to threads here as well. Anyway, here is my reply to Beth in the thread that I started but am now not allowed to post in.

You give me infractions and delete my post and then say we don't have the stones to call you. Maybe a phone call my way would have been in order. Two way street. That is insulting there. A legitimate post was made asking a question to a person that you could not stand until he got in with the PWNA. I realize you probably hate having to let him ramble on on your board, but I realize you have to do what the big guys decree.
 
I was blocked out too William. This is my reply to that thread.




In all fairness to all parties concerned this type of stuff really needs to stop. It helps no one.

That said I will ad my .02

#1....Ron, you text me you were banned, you didn't say who did it and I looked into it. You have a way of swatting flies with a bulldozer. Some like it, some don't.

#2....Beth, it is your board, but Jim asks for what he gets, I think you will agree. And you must expect & accept the fallout of his posts. If you don't want a fire put away the matches.

#3....Tony, IMO I saw nothing wrong with your post....But you do have a way of taking it way beyond where it needs to go. Dragging other people into your posts that don't need to be there. Remember the cabin by the lake.

#4...William.... Was stating an opinion, and if others read that post (And really didn't understand it) They may come to the same opinion as he did. He didn't deserve an infraction.


I said that to say this......Please Folks, lets lay off each other!!! I agree with Beth, if you've got something to say to someone.....Call them....text them....email them...but let's try to keep the attacks or whatever negativity down to a bare minimum if possible on the boards. Disclaimer.....Yes I include myself in that statement.

We portray ourselves as Professionals........Lets Act Like Professionals.

Lord, its gonna be a long Winter.
 
Guy - there is nothing wrong with your settings on TGS. You are in fact listed as a moderator and have access. I just checked it.

The posts that were moved (not removed) are in the moderator area. Look there.

Beth
 
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It was getting out of hand. PWI has a long standing policy that we don't attack other boards here. Because of how it was going, I made the decision to move the post. Yes, Jim is a pain, and no one knows better the lies and deceit he engages in then me. But problems on TGS do not need to be brought here. I am absolutely certain that Beth does not want PWI dirty laundry aired over there, though it is bound to happen.

You all are welcome to hate me, and I promise I will give you back'100 fold what I get paid as admin. If you are curious how much that is, close your eyes, and tell me what you see.

And the thread is in the admin never deleted section.
 
So call people you disagree with, but you may also be accused of working behind the scenes or lying since no one can back up either side. Got it
 
Charlie you are taking my statement out of context. It referred to what I have seen and experienced firsthand when I served PWNA. I have seen it other times as well in this industry. I am not going to type a 5 page dissertation to explain it here, just to be thought of poorly. If you want to understand it further, pick up the phone and call me. Otherwise, please stop taking snipes at me. I'm not jabbing at you.

Beth
 
Sorry I just edited that post before I saw your reply. I understand the desire of every board pwi, tgs, and uamcc to avoid controversy and the owners of those boards have every right to manage as they see fit.

The point I masked in my cynicism (not intended to jab at anyone) is that it seems to lend to even more confusion who said what, who replied to what, who editted what, who deleted the thread, etc etc. And then it just snowballs worse than just leaving it be.

I'd like to call you next week if that is ok with you to get your feedback on efforts relating to me running for UAMCC and get some thoughts on how we can be an organization for everyone, regardless of who is in charge or wins. Thanks!

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Charlie, I would welcome speaking to you.
Beth
 
This coming year will be very interesting to say the least.
 
bigchaz said:
Sorry I just edited that post before I saw your reply. I understand the desire of every board pwi, tgs, and uamcc to avoid controversy and the owners of those boards have every right to manage as they see fit.

The point I masked in my cynicism (not intended to jab at anyone) is that it seems to lend to even more confusion who said what, who replied to what, who editted what, who deleted the thread, etc etc. And then it just snowballs worse than just leaving it be.

I'd like to call you next week if that is ok with you to get your feedback on efforts relating to me running for UAMCC and get some thoughts on how we can be an organization for everyone, regardless of who is in charge or wins. Thanks!

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It's not just a desire to avoid controversy... I believe the often forgotten purpose of the boards such as PWI and TGS is to educate contractors, provide a platform for networking and to promote the 'betterment' of our industry. While this is a very generic 'description' of their purpose and benefits, the information on these boards is as valuable as the positive participation of their members. When this participation is consistently negative, disrespectful or against forum rules the value of the board is diminished.

The encouragement to pick up the phone and talk about the problem, rather than the cyclical rants is actually some good advice. Talking an issue out can help solve it, or at the very least give a better understanding of context and tone - the parties may still not like each other, but they can move on without the trade of digs and jabs online.

I speak for myself when I say the admins, forum leaders and staff members don't want to 'police' the board, I guess there is an unwritten expectation that we can all be professional and leave the 'he said, she said' at the proverbial door. Will there continue to be online battles and clashes of beliefs and personalities... sure there will. But, I guess it is the hope of the aforementioned groups that this can be done in a manner that avoids the 'watering down' of the purpose of the boards.

Charlie, although I am no longer a member of the UAMCC, thanks for stepping forward as a BOD candidate... my advice, for what it's worth, on making the UAMCC an 'organization for everyone' - don't build the organization around an online forum. There seems to a fascination with forums - yes it is a positive communication tool, but building a national org from the top down is going to take working the phones and other channels of communication to get stuff done. Also, get a legitimate framework for local (state) representation - in my opinion, its success lies in helping 'local' contractors further their business and protecting their interests. I believe the PWNC has had some success and should perhaps be a model for local organization.
 
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