Should We Close the UAMCC BBS for Good?

Should the UAMCC bbs be Closed?

  • Yes close it

    Votes: 17 39.5%
  • No keep it Open

    Votes: 15 34.9%
  • I careless

    Votes: 11 25.6%

  • Total voters
    43
Ron,

MIKE H started that BBS. He bought the license. You helped him, I never denied that. But I was on the committee, I made banner calls, I worked with others to get the banners up, do you remember the guy from Roof A Cide? He was on the committee too and works on ti as well. I have a very sharp memory. So does Mike H...if you want to ask him....there were committee calls, and like I said I remember you on like part of one. There was a point where you pretty much drifted off. Mike made a decision, and put me in charge.
Hey Ron, it's okay to have others be as active as you remember being, and to have done as much or maybe even more....lots of people have given over the years. And I remember VERY well how much I did and when....

Beth
 
Ron,

MIKE H started that BBS. He bought the license. You helped him, I never denied that. But I was on the committee, I made banner calls, I worked with others to get the banners up, do you remember the guy from Roof A Cide? He was on the committee too and works on ti as well. I have a very sharp memory. So does Mike H...if you want to ask him....there were committee calls, and like I said I remember you on like part of one. There was a point where you pretty much drifted off. Mike made a decision, and put me in charge.
Hey Ron, it's okay to have others be as active as you remember being, and to have done as much or maybe even more....lots of people have given over the years. And I remember VERY well how much I did and when....

Beth

That's the point, no one is ever thanked for there help. Beth I do not really care, over the years people have been stepped on over and over. Look at yourself, you always to busy to help. That's not the truth, you helped in the past and got slammed.

Why because people took shots at you. You shot back, in the end no one wins this way.

Like I said earlier my point was on. You never knew I was co-admin until now. That's the kind of stuff that went on. I did start it from day one.

When pwi became the official forum by the hand of the bod. That was the day we started the Pwna bbs.

Instead of arguing you help more or I did. Let's just work together to help a real industry org that records history and thanks its members for there efforts to support the industry that provides for there family's.

The topic here is shut the bbs off or not.

I know it's up to the members. I made the post because I care about the association. I have alway been concerned we have a good association.

Beth your happy with logo rental , I'm not. My customers want wash water control guidelines. The message about allowing pollutants wash into the ground by past leaders is not working. It all a matter of time and it will effect you. Maybe on the eve of your preparing to retire and you just need two more strong seasons. Then regulations stop you. It's happened to folks over the years. Thank goodness the arm of this thing is small.

That another subject


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Ron,
I don't really appreciate you saying "I'm too busy to help". I have done soooooooooo much in the past, and I am entitled to live my own life, and choose my own path and where to spend MY time. I help other all the time. You may not see it, it's not necessarily online! But you assume everything should be in your scope of view and for your review and that somehow you would be aware. You, are not living my life. I am.

Do me a favor, make no further comments about me, my time, my company or my generosity past, present or future. Your facts are incorrect and I don't appreciate misstatements.

Have a good day.
Beth
 
As always Beth you missed the point, you have helped tremendous. So much and what was it for?

Stop with the BS about nothing.

help or don't Beth, thats your choice. I asked you to out of respect for you as a leader. Please stop being so offended by anyones disagreement with you, its silly.

Your personal life is that Beth, no one here has said your a dead beat as your comments above indicate. I'm sure your a up standing member of your community. So please just stop with all that, I'm not stupid and neither are the readers.

Beth if you do not want to assist then I'll never address you if thats your wishes.

Thanks I will have a great day, the temps are warm today.

Happy New year all




Ron,
I don't really appreciate you saying "I'm too busy to help". I have done soooooooooo much in the past, and I am entitled to live my own life, and choose my own path and where to spend MY time. I help other all the time. You may not see it, it's not necessarily online! But you assume everything should be in your scope of view and for your review and that somehow you would be aware. You, are not living my life. I am.

Do me a favor, make no further comments about me, my time, my company or my generosity past, present or future. Your facts are incorrect and I don't appreciate misstatements.

Have a good day.
Beth
 
I could really care less but that bb seems to be the only place that certain people talk smack about me. If you close it my friends wont have anywhere to go read chit and report back to me. Hahaha! Fyi... I don't go there at all.
 
If you want to propose a trinity type admin to cover it with at least 20 staff I would say it might be worth keeping open.

I think Beth heart is at tgs, that's ok because mine is at Nce. I still think she can help.

I just wish we all could come together to build a viable org for all of us. With that being the only purpose.


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Just as long as Russ stays off the internet! LOL
 
I dont think there is enough traffic at this point Ron to justify, 3 admins and 20+ staff, in fact that is way over kill and there are not enough to do the job in the first place.

It can be done buy why? I dont feel they even want it done.

Heck I asked and asked for assistance and never got it from the previous BOD, if they dont care why should we.

As I said earlier, I offered within the last two weeks to try to revamp it and even simplify things over there and try to get something going and was turned down, my offer still stands.
 
I sincerely hope that the decision is NOT made from a poll on this BBS. This BBS, TGS, Powerwash N, PressureNet, etc.... are NOT the UAMCC. The sitting BOD is clueless about what the MEMBERS want and THIS poll is based on their activities, not the upcoming BOD. In all fairness to the UAMCC forum and its users - this is an issue that should be considered after 2012, when the new BOD and "real" members are participating.

I'm pissy and skipped over the majority of this thread so don't really know the full conversation although knowing history as I do - I'm betting it is full of stupid drama.
 
Russ you know why PWI works well, even you or myself need reason sometimes. How often has someone taken personal attacks and done something that made the entire team look stupid. It happens because as humans we control situations with emotions. Its not easy for new folks to understand that sometimes resolve is needed to stop the repeating of problems.

I truly get it that its not busy, but thats what's needed to make it become busier. Need people developing ownership of being a part of something.

We could create something there that cannot be created anyplace else. Its not PWI or TGS which run very different and have there own personalities. One might say TGS is better, someone else may say PWI is better. I say they are just unique in the way they are run. Choices are what its all about.

The UAMCC could be run as the first real Non-profit entity as a national Org. The PWNA I don't think is a non-profit , so in-fact its nothing more than someone's personal business. Thats ok too, they run it well and get people to support it.

We could build a real org that could actually do all the things a real industry org does. Awareness to our customers we are better cleaners with higher standards. This would bring more money and reduce hacks from markets this is promoted to.

Certifications would be real instead of 50 posts on a BBS.

You have worked hard for your credentials Russ, protect them. Alone its impossible, when billy bob starts up he is you instantly in a few days. Your high standards do not exist, only preaching you can do is by yourself.

William does great and so do you, but the separations of a new start up are merely some equipment purchased and a good talker.

Lets finally Join this industry with the leaders and raise the standards. I can compete with you, therefore the prices will stay fair. Instead of Billy Bob taking his 401K and lowering them for you and me until he's gone, the next one steps up.

When was the last time you got a Plumber out for less than 70 to 120 hour? Sure you might say you make more than that, until billy bob come along.

Training and experience matters.

I dont think there is enough traffic at this point Ron to justify, 3 admins and 20+ staff, in fact that is way over kill and there are not enough to do the job in the first place.

It can be done buy why? I dont feel they even want it done.

Heck I asked and asked for assistance and never got it from the previous BOD, if they dont care why should we.

As I said earlier, I offered within the last two weeks to try to revamp it and even simplify things over there and try to get something going and was turned down, my offer still stands.
 
welcome to the Drama, are you going to move the thread or John? LOL

celeste thats my point, its not PWI OR TGS...it should be bigger

I sincerely hope that the decision is NOT made from a poll on this BBS. This BBS, TGS, Powerwash N, PressureNet, etc.... are NOT the UAMCC. The sitting BOD is clueless about what the MEMBERS want and THIS poll is based on their activities, not the upcoming BOD. In all fairness to the UAMCC forum and its users - this is an issue that should be considered after 2012, when the new BOD and "real" members are participating.

I'm pissy and skipped over the majority of this thread so don't really know the full conversation although knowing history as I do - I'm betting it is full of stupid drama.
 
So what your saying is the bod doesn't make that choice?


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Yea, that's the way I look at it. The unique thing about the UAMCC is that Members have a voice. If there was ever a vote on this, I would not vote for shutting it down unless there was a dynamic alternative.

If the Members say shut it down, then shut it down, even though I feel this would be a mistake.


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I could really care less but that bb seems to be the only place that certain people talk smack about me. If you close it my friends wont have anywhere to go read chit and report back to me. Hahaha! Fyi... I don't go there at all.

If anyone ever talks smack about you on UAMCC I will F them up brother!!!!!!!

You and your wife have a GREAT CHRISTMAS!!!
 
Well we have to change that!!

Yea, that's the way I look at it. The unique thing about the UAMCC is that Members have a voice. If there was ever a vote on this, I would not vote for shutting it down unless there was a dynamic alternative.

If the Members say shut it down, then shut it down, even though I feel this would be a mistake.


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