How does the P@NA view us as contractors?

Tony Shelton

BS Detector, Esquire
Jim Gamble, Western US Environmental chair makes these kinds of posts on BBS's about us.

What do you think he is telling the officials he meets with?

Why on earth would anybody support an org that goes out on the internet and says these types of things about their own peers?

Here are some samples:

1) We usually have not been trained properly
2) We make phony insurance docs with photoshop
3) We don't properly dispose of hazardous waste
4) If we disagree we are lowballers and hacks
5) We make so little money we have to live with our parents

This is your "clear voice" people. This has been in the stance of the PW@A for a long time. They just unfortunately now have a spokesperson who is too ignorant to keep it to himself.



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Wait, Tony, Are YOU living with your parents? I know I am not. Russ has been disowned. Ron's both passed away.
Really, some of the claims that this pluperfect imbecile made are incredible, but then, what was I to expect?
 
Since everything he says is directed at me, you or Ron, I guess he doesn't know Chris and Jill moved into their own place a few months ago. lol.

That's the way we look to those guys. That's why they took Jim in and "like" all his facebook posts. They are one in the same.

I know you won't like that Scott, but it's time to face reality. They don't like you because you won't stab Ron in the back. This is some crazy stuff.

I wouldn't be concerned with them and certainly wouldn't associate with them if they weren't exposing us to so much litigation and new regulation by putting all this false crap out on the web.
 
No, I am concerned because he has made direct threats on my accounts, and because I can prove that he has gone to great lengths to delve into my business. It concerns me that someone that wants to be considered an industry leader would resort to such tactics, simply because I am the person he fears most.
I will never understand someone that cannot be happy if someone else is finding honest success, providing quality work.
 
He must not be very busy getting $2.00 a square foot for parking garage cleaning if he's busy running his mouth off. Don't worry guys, it will come back and bite him in the a++ one of these days. I'm a firm believer that karma is a b+tch.

He anyone made direct threats on any of my accounts I would get my attorney involved and end up owning his business by the end of everything. He sure throws around the terms 'hacks' and 'lowballers' pretty freely though. He must live a very lonely and sad life and have nothing else better to do with his time.
 
This takes me back to my post in Rons thread "UAMCC notice from running President".

When people put on the hat of leadership, they need to put personal feelings and agendas on the shelf. Not everyone is capable of this degree of professionalism.

I've never had any run in's with Jim personally and I actually spoke to him several times in 2010 when I was setting up reclaim. It was quite obvious his primary marketing plan was negative selling against other company's and increasing regulation and oversight.

How he got to be an Enviro Chair given his positions IMHO is baffling. Honestly, There are only two explanations.....1) Tony is right and P@NA see's us all as a bunch of necessary idiots which leaks out on occasion or 2) P@NA is ship adrift with no real leadership, management or direction.

Actually, their might be a third reason, Jim was inventing the miracle stainless reclaim filter.....as a vendor, he's a perfect fit with P@NA

On a brighter note, [FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica][FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica]The longer the title, the less important the job....[/FONT][/FONT]
 
Ron, I have been having a great time!

We are busier now that we have ever been, Life is good.

On a side note and off topic, I cant reply with a quote in a thread nor can I answer pm's on here anymore? Where is the Love!

What browser are you using?
 
@Kory, I took about a 3 or 4 month break, needed it! I was becoming ill every time I logged on for a while.

Also, taking a break sure cut down on the 10+ phone calls I was getting asking silly questions "what chems to clean a roof with" " How much do you charge for a shopping center" " what do you use to clean concrete" LOL
 
@Kory, I took about a 3 or 4 month break, needed it! I was becoming ill every time I logged on for a while.

Also, taking a break sure cut down on the 10+ phone calls I was getting asking silly questions "what chems to clean a roof with" " How much do you charge for a shopping center" " what do you use to clean concrete" LOL

Better die with the secret , your the only guy who has the potato formula.
 
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