Beware of getting banned other Places

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
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Just wanted to let you know getting Banned can affect your revenue stream at other BBS.

These other BBS owners do not care about your families or income.

I know some here do not care about the website revenue but i know its crucial to others.

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Has nothing to do with thread

Yep, I have seen that practice.


The practice of pushing forum link "snake oil" or the practice of someone deleting almost useless SEO links?

I've tried explaining this forum link value "myth" several times on several forums and like the villain in the Halloween series, it just keeps coming back to life.

Forum post links don't hurt but they really don't move the SEO needle either. If you have 4000 backlinks and 3960 of them are from forums....and got deleted, I doubt you'd drop a single spot in the serps or lose any link juice. First, a forum thread page is like any other web page to the crawlers. When it gets crawled and it's contents are indexed, the link value is also calculated by google. You can do long tail keyword searches (content on the page) and that page will pop up but that's not a function of SEO, it's a function of the content and how uncompetitive the search string was.

When Google runs it's link value algorithm, it takes the PR of the page and divides it's juice and passes it to the links. That includes internal links. The thread page would have to be SEO'd itself (backlinks to the thread, page optomized, etc) to have any PR. If by some strange chance, a thread page did have any decent juice, it would be divided amongst the outbound links. A site with a homepage PR of 5 doesn't pass that "5" juice to a link on one of its buried pages. It can pass some (not much if it's not done right) of its juice to it's own page but as I said, it would be split by the page links.

Here is Google's Matt Cutts:

The best way to think about it is that the number of pages that we crawl is roughly proportional to your PageRank. So if you have a lot of incoming links on your root page, we’ll definitely crawl that. Then your root page may link to other pages, and those will get PageRank and we’ll crawl those as well. As you get deeper and deeper in your site, however, PageRank tends to decline.

Another:

How good is the advice that forum signatures can actually help with improving a sites ranking? Consider this:

Most forum threads have a Google Page Rank of zero, so there is not going to be much PR available to pass through a signature link.
Most pages on a forum have lots of internal and external links on them, so any link juice has to be shared between all those links (A PR of 0 divided by 100 or so links = nothing).
Signature links are self promotional links and are easy to get. They are not the sorts of links that are editorially given, so are likely to be valued very low, if at all, by search engines anyway. If you were a search engine, how much value would you give these easily gained self-promotional links?
Many forums have the nofollow attribute added to external links. (If they don’t, then they should to put an end to the fluff posting nonsense).
Even though a search engine is showing a forum signature in their backlink sample, does not actually mean that the link is passing any link juice.

In this context, I think signature links are probably worth nothing or next to nothing. That does not mean they can not be a source of traffic if the signature is related to the topic of the forum.


And another:

Link building using forum signatures doesn’t work however. This might come as a shock to some as there is a whole separate industry of forum link builders out there these days. Lots of businesses online that are offering forum link building services only showing the prospective clients how many backlinks they can get from such service.

While getting the backlinks using such technique is not hard to do, how much true value these backlinks provide in terms of passing link juice is the question. Let’s go over some facts which will help us understand the situation a little better.

Forums that allow you to post your signature links usually allow you to post 4 signature links on average with some forums restricting the members by allowing only two signature links where some forums not restricting the members at all meaning you can have all the links you want on your signature. Some are actually taking advantage of such forums by using as many as 6 – 8 links on their signatures.

Now, if we look at how many comments one single tread many have and how many signature links each individual forum thread many have, we see that a single thread having 20 comments per page with each member having 4 links in there signature, that’s 80 external links on each page! Not to mention all the Adsense and other external links the forum owners add in an attempt to monetize their forums. It is therefore not unusual for a single page to have somewhere between 100 to 140+ external links on a single page and that a LOT of external links.

Since the value of the link juice is weighted based on the number of external links are found on that page with more value per link from a page with least amount of external links, you hardly get any value for your links from such page.

Another important fact that needs to be considered here which is that a new thread usually only stays on the category front page for couple of hours on a busy forum after when it moved to the inner pages allowing Googlebot only a 2 hour window to find that thread, index it, and crawl each and every links found on that page which is something that doesn’t happen all the time. Since a new thread page will not have any PR of its own, will not have much authority individually, and will not stay on the forum front page for long, having a backlink from such page will hardly pass any link juice if any at all.

I’m not trying to burst the bubbles of people that provide forum link building services. I’m just pointing out some facts to consider, so that all your hard work doesn’t go in vein.
 
Well we don't do things here no matter how bad someone acts. Hurting people's lives and family's is a low blow


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If I were to start a BB, I'd have deep concern for the reputation it develops. My name would be attached to it and thus MY rep. I guess that's way more important to me than straining out some good business info and support on a BB where any behavior is tolerated.
Maybe I just don't understand it.
 
If I were to start a BB, I'd have deep concern for the reputation it develops. My name would be attached to it and thus MY rep. I guess that's way more important to me than straining out some good business info and support on a BB where any behavior is tolerated.
Maybe I just don't understand it.

None of understand why others intentionally hurt folks.

If we are here it's to help each other. Together we can become better service people. Maybe just better people in general


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Every organization has rules of some sort. If they didn't it would be total chaos. When a member directly disrespects the rules and intentionaly goes against the published rules, numerous times, even after being warned 2 previous times within 1.5 hours, I guess the organization is to blame.?? People seem to think they can go on a site and do what ever they desire, and then blame the actions on the site itself. Not the way I roll, sorry!

Same thoughts most people in prison had at one time in their life, but I guess they were right also.???
 
Every organization has rules of some sort. If they didn't it would be total chaos. When a member directly disrespects the rules and intentionaly goes against the published rules, numerous times, even after being warned 2 previous times within 1.5 hours, I guess the organization is to blame.?? People seem to think they can go on a site and do what ever they desire, and then blame the actions on the site itself. Not the way I roll, sorry!

Same thoughts most people in prison had at one time in their life, but I guess they were right also.???

Excellent way to roll...as long as the rules apply to everybody....
 
We are not going to affect anyone contribution here regardless of being banned, the owners of this bbs is it members.

I'm glad they see punishing some person for being and idiot shouldn't affect his past efforts to help or that it actually could affect others in the community.

We had a tough choice once to ban a felon. Someone prosecuted, we didn't not remove content or links.

I guess others enjoy the power, we chose to be wiser.

So With all said be careful if you building back links in other places. One day because you have no ownership or no right they can be gone.

Regardless of there rules


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Here's my take on this banning thing. I got banned, no big deal. I don't care about the back links or being banned. I have plenty of back links from here at PWI and other place's. But Gary puts under my aviator "Banned User". That's branding me and my Business . It makes me look like a bad guy, all I did was put a signature link up 10 or 15 times.( it was fun) He is doing this to all us band members. That part of the banning I think is wrong. I will take my punishment, but don't take what's taken me 30 years to build away over a signature link.
 
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