Start up Advice - Calling all veterans!

gdaenen58

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Hello,

I am in the process of starting up a PW business in South Texas. I am currently developing my business plan now, and acquiring all the licences,permits, EIN info, DBA, etc... as well. I have a tentative timeline to be up and running by Sept. 1st of this year.

Calling all veterans!

Could you please describe for me:

  1. The biggest challenges you faced in starting your business in this industry.
  2. The mistakes you made in the beginning stages of your business: these can be related to equip., personnel, target market, business organization, etc.... anything that will help.
  3. With the knowledge and experience you have now, list 3 things you would do differently if you were to start a business today in this industry.
  4. Any other advice for a young green horn new to this field.

I must thank you in advance for any amount of advice you can send my way!
 
I would recommend going to Doug's school as it will save you years off the learning curve, show you what you need in business and what you don't, gives you real experience to see if you really want to do this or not, show you tricks and tips of the trade and a lot more other things to give you a running start.
 
Not a veteran as I just started this year but I did go to a roundtable 28 days after registering my business and learned so much from the guys there. From my experience having done a dozen or so houses and roofs is that you should double you advertising budget to get your name and exposure out there. If there was a class near me to take I probably would've done it but a few houses in and I've had pretty smooth, successful results and haven't killed a plant yet to my knowledge. This is probably attributable more to the roundtable attendees advice I got and the info gained from this forum on the process and chemistry. I'll take a little credit for the due diligence I applied and based on your post, you seem to be covering that.

Equipment wise, I should've bit the bullet and went with a 5.5 gpm hot water unit to open up my market capabilities. The 4 gpm unit I have is great for residential but lacking for the real commercial work I've been eyeballing and soon proposing for.

Again, as a rookie, I can say this much... I've got a 18' telescoping wand if your interested LOL
 
Hello,

I am in the process of starting up a PW business in South Texas. I am currently developing my business plan now, and acquiring all the licences,permits, EIN info, DBA, etc... as well. I have a tentative timeline to be up and running by Sept. 1st of this year.

Calling all veterans!

Could you please describe for me:

  1. The biggest challenges you faced in starting your business in this industry.
  2. The mistakes you made in the beginning stages of your business: these can be related to equip., personnel, target market, business organization, etc.... anything that will help.
  3. With the knowledge and experience you have now, list 3 things you would do differently if you were to start a business today in this industry.
  4. Any other advice for a young green horn new to this field.

I must thank you in advance for any amount of advice you can send my way!

Welcome in the pool, will talk when I get out


Text me for info on Milwaukee event. 480-522-5227
 
I remember when mine was delivered. thought it was the greatest thing. what a waste of $190 bucks.

I don't feel so bad now. I only spent $170.00
 
Hello,

I am in the process of starting up a PW business in South Texas. I am currently developing my business plan now, and acquiring all the licences,permits, EIN info, DBA, etc... as well. I have a tentative timeline to be up and running by Sept. 1st of this year.

Calling all veterans!

Could you please describe for me:

  1. The biggest challenges you faced in starting your business in this industry.
  2. The mistakes you made in the beginning stages of your business: these can be related to equip., personnel, target market, business organization, etc.... anything that will help.
  3. With the knowledge and experience you have now, list 3 things you would do differently if you were to start a business today in this industry.
  4. Any other advice for a young green horn new to this field.

I must thank you in advance for any amount of advice you can send my way!

I'm a little different and in a different field than most, but I'll share from my experience in my business and my experience helping my son Chris get started in his concrete cleaning business.

1) The biggest challenge on the concrete side was taking on jobs we were unfamiliar with and trying to do them without reaching out for advice from those more experienced. Some examples would be bidding 400 on a paint stripe removal at a tire shop that took 18 hours, seeing stripes from the surface cleaner and continuing to do the job trying everything that made sense without calling someone who could help me fix it immediately and taking on complicated jobs that could have been done much easier if I had just called in advance.

Our market is the same as Ron's and Scott's. We clean a lot of the same things. So Ron and Scott are both on speed dial and I call them regularly for help when we are doing a new type of job we've never done before. In five minutes they can tell me things that save us hours. That is the value of experience. As time goes by we need to call less and less but still almost weekly Chris will get a call to clean something he's never cleaned before and no matter how simple it seems on it's face, I always tell him to call Ron or Scott first just to make sure there isn't something they can add to make it go smoother.

2) The first mistake I made was not being on the boards and not knowing about guys like Russ, Paul, Jerry and others who know everything about troubleshooting equipment and instead paying full retail for my first machine (around $9k just for the skid). I wanted something with a warranty because I was unfamiliar with the equipment, but little did I know, warranties on skids don't cover very much. If I had bought a used one to get my feet wet I could have utilized more than $5k in savings for marketing materials.
There is definitely a value in new skids, that value comes when you have enough business that your time is full and it costs more in time to troubleshoot than you have available.

We also made the mistake of not knowing the market and wasting a lot of time on unqualified leads. Once Ron directed us to where the bullseye was, everything changed.

3) Three things I would do differently:
a) I would bank every dime to pay cash for every upgrade instead of relying on a credit card or financing that eats up too much of your profit in interest payments.
b) I would determine, from other veterans in my field what my target market is and zero ALL my brochures, web pages, and other marketing in on that segment. Once established and making money from those, then I would have the luxury of spending money on fringe areas of pressure washing.
c) I would set up regular customer contact on a monthly basis to make sure I don't lose accounts because I failed to build a personal relationship with the customers.

Organization:

a) I would have set up an LLC instead of and SCorp for tax simplification.
b) I would have set up an ironclad system of scheduling from the beginning instead of relying on scratch notes and memory.

Advice:

Don't pay any attention to business school propaganda, self help junk, inspirational seminars, and other such nonsense.

Get out there and take all the work you can get without fear.

Rely on the experienced guys to help you when you take on something new.

Don't be afraid of the big jobs. Take them and do them with every ounce of your energy.

Latch on to someone who succeeds at the level you would like to succeed at and learn from them. You won't need any motivational instruction once you see that money dropping in your bank account on a regular basis. Leave that for the guys who are too lazy or proud to do what they have to do and watch them branch off into every other shiny object business opportunity they see.

Use some common sense when choosing a mentor. If your mentor says one thing on the boards and another on the phone, he is a liar and will bring you down just like what has happened with some "specialty" cleaners who are now selling their pumped up equipment and going out of business because they couldn't make any money with it and listened to an idiot.

If your mentor asks you to pay for meals, lodging, etc, he is broke. Run away. Unless you want to end up broke too.

Read the boards, use the search function, use your brain and latch onto someone who can guide you through getting your business started.

After that it is up to you to determine if you have the drive to make this a lifetime profession that you can pass down to your kids and grandkids.

Hope that helps.
 
One of the great things you will learn about at round tables is chemicals, too many local vendors selling watered-down crap or just useless chemicals.

You really don't need a lot of chemicals in this business, just the right chemicals. If you go to Doug's class, he will help you with that.

There are some great vendors that post here that have great chemicals but not all of them (I have to be honest here), there are a lot of vendors out there selling chemicals and parts and will tell you what you want to hear but most of them are just blowing smoke up you know where.
 
I'm a little different and in a different field than most, but I'll share from my experience in my business and my experience helping my son Chris get started in his concrete cleaning business.

1) The biggest challenge on the concrete side was taking on jobs we were unfamiliar with and trying to do them without reaching out for advice from those more experienced. Some examples would be bidding 400 on a paint stripe removal at a tire shop that took 18 hours, seeing stripes from the surface cleaner and continuing to do the job trying everything that made sense without calling someone who could help me fix it immediately and taking on complicated jobs that could have been done much easier if I had just called in advance.

Our market is the same as Ron's and Scott's. We clean a lot of the same things. So Ron and Scott are both on speed dial and I call them regularly for help when we are doing a new type of job we've never done before. In five minutes they can tell me things that save us hours. That is the value of experience. As time goes by we need to call less and less but still almost weekly Chris will get a call to clean something he's never cleaned before and no matter how simple it seems on it's face, I always tell him to call Ron or Scott first just to make sure there isn't something they can add to make it go smoother.

2) The first mistake I made was not being on the boards and not knowing about guys like Russ, Paul, Jerry and others who know everything about troubleshooting equipment and instead paying full retail for my first machine (around $9k just for the skid). I wanted something with a warranty because I was unfamiliar with the equipment, but little did I know, warranties on skids don't cover very much. If I had bought a used one to get my feet wet I could have utilized more than $5k in savings for marketing materials.
There is definitely a value in new skids, that value comes when you have enough business that your time is full and it costs more in time to troubleshoot than you have available.

We also made the mistake of not knowing the market and wasting a lot of time on unqualified leads. Once Ron directed us to where the bullseye was, everything changed.

3) Three things I would do differently:
a) I would bank every dime to pay cash for every upgrade instead of relying on a credit card or financing that eats up too much of your profit in interest payments.
b) I would determine, from other veterans in my field what my target market is and zero ALL my brochures, web pages, and other marketing in on that segment. Once established and making money from those, then I would have the luxury of spending money on fringe areas of pressure washing.
c) I would set up regular customer contact on a monthly basis to make sure I don't lose accounts because I failed to build a personal relationship with the customers.

Organization:

a) I would have set up an LLC instead of and SCorp for tax simplification.
b) I would have set up an ironclad system of scheduling from the beginning instead of relying on scratch notes and memory.

Advice:

Don't pay any attention to business school propaganda, self help junk, inspirational seminars, and other such nonsense.

Get out there and take all the work you can get without fear.

Rely on the experienced guys to help you when you take on something new.

Don't be afraid of the big jobs. Take them and do them with every ounce of your energy.

Latch on to someone who succeeds at the level you would like to succeed at and learn from them. You won't need any motivational instruction once you see that money dropping in your bank account on a regular basis. Leave that for the guys who are too lazy or proud to do what they have to do and watch them branch off into every other shiny object business opportunity they see.

Use some common sense when choosing a mentor. If your mentor says one thing on the boards and another on the phone, he is a liar and will bring you down just like what has happened with some "specialty" cleaners who are now selling their pumped up equipment and going out of business because they couldn't make any money with it and listened to an idiot.

If your mentor asks you to pay for meals, lodging, etc, he is broke. Run away. Unless you want to end up broke too.

Read the boards, use the search function, use your brain and latch onto someone who can guide you through getting your business started.

After that it is up to you to determine if you have the drive to make this a lifetime profession that you can pass down to your kids and grandkids.

Hope that helps.

Tony,

Wow.... Thank you sooo much for your insightful response and information advice. I will surely need much of both.

Could you possible pass on some of the contact info for the people you listed above. I have contacted Ron and Doug.
Can you elaborate on the others as to their location, expertise, and contact info, if they agree of course.

Thank you again for your help!'
 
Tony,

Wow.... Thank you sooo much for your insightful response and information advice. I will surely need much of both.

Could you possible pass on some of the contact info for the people you listed above. I have contacted Ron and Doug.
Can you elaborate on the others as to their location, expertise, and contact info, if they agree of course.

Thank you again for your help!'

What niche of pressure washing are you interested in getting into?

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What niche of pressure washing are you interested in getting into?

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I am looking to get into the commercial end of the business.

For example, gas stations, store fronts, parking garages, PM's, etc...

Will look to start with truck or trailer rig, two 5.5 or better gpm hot water rigs with recovery unit and two 28" surface cleaners.
 
Then you need to talk to Ron, Scott Stone, Steven Button, Kory, and Russ Spence for starters.

Ron can help you sell (and everything else)
Scott can help you with the technical issues and government bidding.
Steven and Russ can help you with travel challenges if you want to work larger areas.
Kory can help you put it all together.

There are many others who can help just as much. This is just for starters.

I'd suggest you get with Ron first to determine your target market and how to qualify them. Once you get the work you have vast resources to help you complete it right.
 
One thing I disagree with Tony on, if you are not sure about a job, particularly a large job, rethink it ten times to make sure all your bases are covered. That includes job scheduling, production etc. if it is too mind boggling break it down into manageable job bites so that you only have to worry about a day at a time. For instance, I can tell you where every one of y guys is going to be next week, within about 20 minutes. That is just what I have found works.
 
I'm a little different and in a different field than most, but I'll share from my experience in my business and my experience helping my son Chris get started in his concrete cleaning business.

1) The biggest challenge on the concrete side was taking on jobs we were unfamiliar with and trying to do them without reaching out for advice from those more experienced. Some examples would be bidding 400 on a paint stripe removal at a tire shop that took 18 hours, seeing stripes from the surface cleaner and continuing to do the job trying everything that made sense without calling someone who could help me fix it immediately and taking on complicated jobs that could have been done much easier if I had just called in advance.

Our market is the same as Ron's and Scott's. We clean a lot of the same things. So Ron and Scott are both on speed dial and I call them regularly for help when we are doing a new type of job we've never done before. In five minutes they can tell me things that save us hours. That is the value of experience. As time goes by we need to call less and less but still almost weekly Chris will get a call to clean something he's never cleaned before and no matter how simple it seems on it's face, I always tell him to call Ron or Scott first just to make sure there isn't something they can add to make it go smoother.

2) The first mistake I made was not being on the boards and not knowing about guys like Russ, Paul, Jerry and others who know everything about troubleshooting equipment and instead paying full retail for my first machine (around $9k just for the skid). I wanted something with a warranty because I was unfamiliar with the equipment, but little did I know, warranties on skids don't cover very much. If I had bought a used one to get my feet wet I could have utilized more than $5k in savings for marketing materials.
There is definitely a value in new skids, that value comes when you have enough business that your time is full and it costs more in time to troubleshoot than you have available.

We also made the mistake of not knowing the market and wasting a lot of time on unqualified leads. Once Ron directed us to where the bullseye was, everything changed.

3) Three things I would do differently:
a) I would bank every dime to pay cash for every upgrade instead of relying on a credit card or financing that eats up too much of your profit in interest payments.
b) I would determine, from other veterans in my field what my target market is and zero ALL my brochures, web pages, and other marketing in on that segment. Once established and making money from those, then I would have the luxury of spending money on fringe areas of pressure washing.
c) I would set up regular customer contact on a monthly basis to make sure I don't lose accounts because I failed to build a personal relationship with the customers.

Organization:

a) I would have set up an LLC instead of and SCorp for tax simplification.
b) I would have set up an ironclad system of scheduling from the beginning instead of relying on scratch notes and memory.

Advice:

Don't pay any attention to business school propaganda, self help junk, inspirational seminars, and other such nonsense.

Get out there and take all the work you can get without fear.

Rely on the experienced guys to help you when you take on something new.

Don't be afraid of the big jobs. Take them and do them with every ounce of your energy.

Latch on to someone who succeeds at the level you would like to succeed at and learn from them. You won't need any motivational instruction once you see that money dropping in your bank account on a regular basis. Leave that for the guys who are too lazy or proud to do what they have to do and watch them branch off into every other shiny object business opportunity they see.

Use some common sense when choosing a mentor. If your mentor says one thing on the boards and another on the phone, he is a liar and will bring you down just like what has happened with some "specialty" cleaners who are now selling their pumped up equipment and going out of business because they couldn't make any money with it and listened to an idiot.

If your mentor asks you to pay for meals, lodging, etc, he is broke. Run away. Unless you want to end up broke too.

Read the boards, use the search function, use your brain and latch onto someone who can guide you through getting your business started.

After that it is up to you to determine if you have the drive to make this a lifetime profession that you can pass down to your kids and grandkids.

Hope that helps.

Great post
 
I am looking to get into the commercial end of the business.

For example, gas stations, store fronts, parking garages, PM's, etc...

Will look to start with truck or trailer rig, two 5.5 or better gpm hot water rigs with recovery unit and two 28" surface cleaners.

I agree with Tony in that you can spend A LOT less on equipment starting out. It's better to save some of those funds for a rainy day.
 
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