Why Is It That Everyone Claims That Pressure Washing Is Being Regulated

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ChathamPM

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This is my question I hear all of this water recovery crap. It is all B/S I have only been doing this for around 2 years personally company has been around for 4 years. When I first came to the industry I wanted to get licensed to separate my operation apart from the rest. I searched and searched nothing, I found it by mistake preparing for my pest control license, which is a whole different subject. If local government doesn't have guidance they get nervous, that is why some guys are getting hit. We fall under commercial chemical applicators. Plain and simple unless you are only using water to clean. So get your license pay the $40 and give them a guide to follow. COMMERCIAL CHEMICAL APPLICATOR.

Please voice your opinions.

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Tomeco Farrior
Chatham Property Maintenance
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ChathamPM said:
This is my question I hear all of this water recovery crap. It is all B/S I have only been doing this for around 2 years personally company has been around for 4 years. When I first came to the industry I wanted to get licensed to separate my operation apart from the rest. I searched and searched nothing, I found it by mistake preparing for my pest control license, which is a whole different subject. If local government doesn't have guidance they get nervous, that is why some guys are getting hit. We fall under commercial chemical applicators. Plain and simple unless you are only using water to clean. So get your license pay the $40 and give them a guide to follow. COMMERCIAL CHEMICAL APPLICATOR.

Please voice your opinions.

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Tomeco Farrior
Chatham Property Maintenance
9122285907
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Welcome to the BBS, Someone will be with shortly I imagine.
 
Here is the hazard weigh what you are saying. Every state has different requirements. That is a cause of a lot of the misunderstandings and controversy. It is the same when someone says you need to make 30 cents a square foot and anyone that doesn't is not charging enough. They do t take into account cost of living in different areas or that my significantly lower price is measure differently, even though they are both by the square foot.
 
I think every state has a different jurisdiction for regulating waste water. In Arizona its regulated by ADEQ or Arizona Department of Environmental Quality. There is no license that ADEQ offers here. There is an abundance of regulations that don't seem to be enforced at this time. I would assume because the state can not afford to send around people all day and night ensuring that all regulation are being followed. Federally waste water control is mandated by EPA or Environmental Protection Agency. There is about 1000 threads on this board about EPA. So you can search all you want about it.

I don't really understand your post or what knowledge you are trying to receive? But if you can clarify what you are asking I will be happy to voice my opinion.
 
AZ PowerWash Pros said:
I think every state has a different jurisdiction for regulating waste water. In Arizona its regulated by ADEQ or Arizona Department of Environmental Quality. There is no license that ADEQ offers here. There is an abundance of regulations that don't seem to be enforced at this time. I would assume because the state can not afford to send around people all day and night ensuring that all regulation are being followed. Federally waste water control is mandated by EPA or Environmental Protection Agency. There is about 1000 threads on this board about EPA. So you can search all you want about it.

I don't really understand your post or what knowledge you are trying to receive? But if you can clarify what you are asking I will be happy to voice my opinion.
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I'm saying that we are not pressure washing companies, we are commercial chemical applicators. Which falls under pest control.
 
ChathamPM said:
I'm saying that we are not pressure washing companies, we are commercial chemical applicators. Which falls under pest control.
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Well I would rather be a pressure washing company and not need a license. I guess that is my opinion...

And I think that also depends on how the law is written on a state to state basis.
 
AZ PowerWash Pros said:
Well I would rather be a pressure washing company and not need a license. I guess that is my opinion...

And I think that also depends on how the law is written on a state to state basis.
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Yes until you get some rare chance that someone wants to make up their own law and give you a fine. Regulations will come and I would rather fall under Commercial Chemical Applicator. You are right about the details of the law but they all have the same definition of pest which I believe can save the industry.
 
ChathamPM said:
Yes until you get some rare chance that someone wants to make up their own law and give you a fine. Regulations will come and I would rather fall under Commercial Chemical Applicator. You are right about the details of the law but they all have the same definition of pest which I believe can save the industry.
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I see where you are going now. Thanks for clarifying. If they make me get a license, I will have one. To me it doesn't matter either way. I will be in the same position I am in now, either way. If the industry changes, I just adapt and change with it.

If you want to push the chemical applicator license try to get the UAMCC to back you and hire a lobbyist. I will be that company that goes whatever direction the industry takes me.
 
ChathamPM said:
This is my question I hear all of this water recovery crap. It is all B/S I have only been doing this for around 2 years personally company has been around for 4 years. When I first came to the industry I wanted to get licensed to separate my operation apart from the rest. I searched and searched nothing, I found it by mistake preparing for my pest control license, which is a whole different subject. If local government doesn't have guidance they get nervous, that is why some guys are getting hit. We fall under commercial chemical applicators. Plain and simple unless you are only using water to clean. So get your license pay the $40 and give them a guide to follow. COMMERCIAL CHEMICAL APPLICATOR.

Please voice your opinions.

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Tomeco Farrior
Chatham Property Maintenance
9122285907
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What state are you in?

Pesticides are under fire right now.

The EPA has exemptions for farming during certain seasons. But they have to fight tooth and nail for that.

The chemicals we commonly use are simple compounds that raise or lower pH or are chlorine variants. The exception would be butyl but that is being used less and less.

You are right, most of what we use is harmless in the amounts needed for cleaning and could easily be neutralized and rendered completely harmless onsite.

For example sodium hydroxide neutralized with hydrochloric acid produces simple salt water which, when evaporated can easily be swept up by the sweeper companies on those schedule before it ever reaches any body of water.

That is far more friendly to the environment than pesticides are.

The pesticide companies have a head start on us. They have lobbied for less restrictions for years with strong leadership. The leadership our industry has had for over twenty years has been tainted with the tendency to go whatever direction produced the best "revenue stream" for those who make their living selling equipment at the expense of loading the contractors down with pages and pages of confusing rules.

That is already changing. Regulations are being revamped and reduced to simple guidelines.

We need exemptions for our industry that are sensible. We already have some. Most jurisdictions allow harmless filtered plaza cleaning runoff to go into the storm drain. The alternative would be vacuuming the runoff which just transfers an unlikely source of real water pollution (the runoff) for a guaranteed source of real air pollution (unnecessary engine exhaust).

Meanwhile I don't think the chemical applicator license will help in most jurisdictions. Help me see the advantage and direct me to some information about it in your area

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Thanks Tony,
I believe you are one of the guys fighting for the industry. You have to get the information from your state college, order the material as if you where preparing for the pest control exam, unfortunately the books cost more than the exam.

That was the other story all you receive are books and no school in the country offers any classes which was very surprising.

I'm in Savannah, Georgia
 
ChathamPM said:
Thanks Tony,
I believe you are one of the guys fighting for the industry. You have to get the information from your state college, order the material as if you where preparing for the pest control exam, unfortunately the books cost more than the exam.

That was the other story all you receive are books and no school in the country offers any classes which was very surprising.

I'm in Savannah, Georgia
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Over the 10 years the incorrect info has been being taught by orgs. I allowed it and ignored it until I saw the Impact its had on fellow contractors.


Unfortunately Many of them Damaged and out of business are not here to tell the story.

The argument would be they where low ballers, some of these guys where 30 year Vets that charged Fair prices.

When you have a Cop standing over you waiting to cite you over washing and the fine is 450 if you agree your a major offender instead of 10,000 you start looking for other work.

Regulation without proper enforcement and trainin will never work.

I have complied in my Jurisdiction Leagally for 30 years.

We Practice BMP's we always trainng our people to proper technics
 
Ron Musgraves said:
Over the 10 years the incorrect info has been being taught by orgs. I allowed it and ignored it until I saw the Impact its had on fellow contractors.


Unfortunately Many of them Damaged and out of business are not here to tell the story.

The argument would be they where low ballers, some of these guys where 30 year Vets that charged Fair prices.

When you have a Cop standing over you waiting to cite you over washing and the fine is 450 if you agree your a major offender instead of 10,000 you start looking for other work.

Regulation without proper enforcement and trainin will never work.

I have complied in my Jurisdiction Leagally for 30 years.

We Practice BMP's we always trainng our people to proper technics
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Great Points
 
Why would you want, or need, a pest applicators license when you never apply pest control products? Why would you invite the scrutiny or do something that could unwittingly put your company under fire? Because of the type of work I do, I have licensing that I have to deal with, but the requirements of pest control licensing don't make sense to me.
 
Years ago when I was working at the refinery there were a couple guys that had pest control companies (in Texas you have to have a pest control license) and they were complaining about having to keep books on every chemical they used, how much they bought, how much they used on each and every job to track the voc's, (I think that was also for the IRS for audits possibly), books on if they spilled anything, etc....A lot of time spent on keeping these books because of the license requirements and the state people wanting to know all about your business. One of them got out of the business before I quit the refinery, the other quit a couple years later as he was tired of all the bookkeeping and nonsense.

I would not want to have that license here and have to keep books on every chemical I use, that would get old fast.
 
ChathamPM said:
This is my question I hear all of this water recovery crap. It is all B/S I have only been doing this for around 2 years personally company has been around for 4 years. When I first came to the industry I wanted to get licensed to separate my operation apart from the rest. I searched and searched nothing, I found it by mistake preparing for my pest control license, which is a whole different subject. If local government doesn't have guidance they get nervous, that is why some guys are getting hit. We fall under commercial chemical applicators. Plain and simple unless you are only using water to clean. So get your license pay the $40 and give them a guide to follow. COMMERCIAL CHEMICAL APPLICATOR.

Please voice your opinions.

_____________________________
Tomeco Farrior
Chatham Property Maintenance
9122285907
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My customer Pay a lot of money to control there own pollution on there property, if I tried to sell them some fantasy thing they didn't need I would be just stealing from them.

Its really that Simple
 
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