Pressure Washing Institutes Official Stance on E-Clean Magazine

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
http://www.ecleanmag.com

Today they announced events happenings 2014 , they also have advertisers who are members here as well as readers.

I have never nor will I draw myself into a silly position of not having options or relations to all.

Some may Disagree in light of the stance they have Taken against the members of the industry who work hard daily to better the industry as volunteers.

We can only truly change the industry by leading as example of somewhere the hatred and fighting has to stop.

Please do not take this as attempts to remedy our situation as I will never personally have anything to do with the individuals who run the publication ever again even if they retracted and apologized. ( just lesson learned through experience, if a dog bites once he will usually bite again. )

Its this simple we have friends & Colleges who choose to use them, the events up till now had been good. The UAMCC was Using this platform exclusively for announcement.

PWI had in the past advertised all and any events and will continue to do so regardless of the group or there personal Vendettas.

Smart Business people do not burn bridges, you always leave your options open incase you need them.

We support all positive things and will always debate the bad and the good in all things professionally.

Here are some New Events Next year you may or may not know about. Good Luck in 2014 Ecleanmag



http://www.ecleanmag.com/events/

This is a UAMCC Associate event with Many members of the UAMCC attending

November 8: J. Racenstein Free Seminar for Window Cleaners and Pressure Washers, Carson, California

(from website): Schedule Includes

Diamond Seal James Aiken Glass Sealing & Demo … Envirobiocleaner
Carlos Gonzales Dumpser Pad & Concrete Cleaning & Demo
Ettore John Becker
Front 9 Restoration Craig Harrison How to sell Rust Removal Jobs & Demo
HydroTek Marv Gerdes Pressure Washing Equipment
IPC Eagle Kevin Mullins Gutter Cleaning & Solar Panel Cleaning
Liberty Mountain Jason Shumaker What happens when your rope gets cut mid-air?
QuoteFlare Josh Lawlor Window Cleaning Quoting Technology for websites
Reach Higher Ground Shawn Gavin Pure Water – H2Pro
SkyPro Mini Mike Draper Robot Window Washer
SoftWash Systems AC Lockyer Softwashing
Unger Paul Offut
Zip Roller Jay Tyler Parapet roller for high rise window cle



Ac In Having another Event in Jan also being advertised in the Website

http://softwashsystems.com/page_softwashapolooza-east.htm
 
Are we supposed to ask for permission to post something that has their name on it, maybe it will be thought of as taken from their site or mag without permission?

I would hate to see that kind of nonsense happen again for just trying to help them post events.

Just wondering as this was a big issue recently.
 
Smart people DO burn bridges. Who needs a bridge for an enemy to cross at will?

One day you will listen to me Ron. lol

Not them Tony , we have Freind's tied up with them.


Oct event San Diego free free text me for more details !!
 
Are we supposed to ask for permission to post something that has their name on it, maybe it will be thought of as taken from their site or mag without permission?

I would hate to see that kind of nonsense happen again for just trying to help them post events.

Just wondering as this was a big issue recently.

No Chris this is industry news from Freind's


Oct event San Diego free free text me for more details !!
 
Ok Ron.
 

No one wins, its all meant to separate and cause Hardships to friends. These are people who attempt to manipulate using division, do not fall for it.

We have to support those who are loyal to us and there choices. In time they will learn on there own and like all things built if not sustainable it will fail on its own. Doesn't need our help.

Sometimes you have to be smarter than them and not play into the reaction they expect they would get, being a larger person is what makes leaders and others Followers.
 
Lets not go to the dark side again.
 
Got home safe and sound with my sheet.
 
Time for the misdirection machine already?
 
I was noticing on the new list of events one glaring omission - not one mention of Doug's pressure washing school. Not once in the whole list. Sad
trying to stay out of this whole thing, but here...
 

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I was noticing on the new list of events one glaring omission - not one mention of Doug's pressure washing school. Not once in the whole list. Sad
...and this statement from our website: Editor’s Note: This is a growing list and may not be all inclusive. If you know of other events you would like to have listed, please contact us. Also, only events with confirmed dates are currently being listed. We reserve the right to decline listing of any event we feel does not fit our mission statement or our audience
 
Are we supposed to ask for permission to post something that has their name on it, maybe it will be thought of as taken from their site or mag without permission?

I would hate to see that kind of nonsense happen again for just trying to help them post events.

Just wondering as this was a big issue recently.
And since I'm here and posting, please clarify what "nonsense" and "big issue" you are referring to here. Thank you. Unless someone would prefer to just pull this post because I believe it has turned negative.
 
It's real simple, when we stop trying to tiptoe across the former bridge by clicking on it all nonsense ends.

I won't click on it. That's why I don't know what events are listed and don't care.

If I wanted more one sided reporting I would have renewed my subscription to cleaner Times.

No mention at all of the UAMCC sending a cease and desist order to Hindeliter and the PWNA for using our logo illegally to promote BMPs. No mention of the UAMCC officially severing ourselves from anything Hinderliter puts out.

Dozens of mentions of the pwna over a year with only a couple or so of the UAMCC.

Why is this still an issue?

Is there any reason for us to be concerned with the pwna's promotional flyer?

Simple. Don't click it, don't worry about it.
It will be gone anyway when the PWNA dies off from its own disregard for contractor concerns.

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It's real simple, when we stop trying to tiptoe across the former bridge by clicking on it all nonsense ends.

I won't click on it. That's why I don't know what events are listed and don't care.

If I wanted more one sided reporting I would have renewed my subscription to cleaner Times.

No mention at all of the UAMCC sending a cease and desist order to Hindeliter and the PWNA for using our logo illegally to promote BMPs. No mention of the UAMCC officially severing ourselves from anything Hinderliter puts out.

Dozens of mentions of the pwna over a year with only a couple or so of the UAMCC.

Why is this still an issue?

Is there any reason for us to be concerned with the pwna's promotional flyer?

Simple. Don't click it, don't worry about it.
It will be gone anyway when the PWNA dies off from its own disregard for contractor concerns.

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There's no doubt about everything you said, but as the pres of the national association I support Paul , Steve & Ac who are having industry events I want contractors to know about as well as the other 14 next year thrown by hard working contractors.

Pwi Pwna iwca. Uamcc one thing we have to remember these are just brothers who belong to other orgs. They may or may not know and eclean isn't going to report that stuff.

Next best thing is having them come to our events.

We are the largest org not for profit in the industry. Growing fast

The traffic rank is second to no one


Oct event San Diego free free text me for more details !!
 
...and this statement from our website: Editor’s Note: This is a growing list and may not be all inclusive. If you know of other events you would like to have listed, please contact us. Also, only events with confirmed dates are currently being listed. We reserve the right to decline listing of any event we feel does not fit our mission statement or our audience

So since Doug's school was listed this whole year does that mean that you deemed that his school doesn't "fit your mission statement or your audience"? It's your magazine and you certainly have that right but you should at least own that decision since you posted this.
 
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