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    Covering hoses on sidewalks/walkwaways

    Hi everyone.

    I am wondering what you guys do to cover the hoses that may have to cross pedestrian walkways/sidewalks? I am looking to ensure we are covering ourselves adequately as far as liability is concerned. Would a rubber mat with caution signs on each side suffice? I'm curious what you guys do to help people avoid tripping on exposed hoses, and by covering them with a mat would it be more dangerous because of the uneven surface people would be stepping on?

    Any ideas would help I have a job that was confirmed today for Monday morning at a hotel and we want to ensure our hoses don't cause any issues.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Simply Divert the Traffic, Logistics when Washing is important on 24 hour or open Places. Keep in Mind after 10am before 3pm no ones is at a hotel or motel. Resort thats another story
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    Unfortunately, its 9am on a busy Monday morning in downtown Victoria, our lines must cross a sidewalk and we cannot divert foot traffic its impossible. Im worried that a mat covering the hoses just makes them "invisible" and people walking on a mat are essentially still walking on the hoses, risking sprained ankles and god knows what else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blastoffvictoria View Post
    Unfortunately, its 9am on a busy Monday morning in downtown Victoria, our lines must cross a sidewalk and we cannot divert foot traffic its impossible. Im worried that a mat covering the hoses just makes them "invisible" and people walking on a mat are essentially still walking on the hoses, risking sprained ankles and god knows what else.

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    Tape or the wire covers they sell at HD or many other places. I'm afraid you will still need to Divert the traffic across the section you have made safe
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    I have run the Hose over Head across City Walks , One Wire but we have a Telescopic Pole on Trailer for Lights. I have used them for Raising the Hose over the Sidewalk. Twice to a Flag Pole another to the window Cleaners Hook under canopy
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    This is a two-three hour job at most, some prior staining that nobody seems to be able to get out. I dropped the price to the point where i'm doing it for the "in" with the hotel chain, they were hesitant to get it cleaned "again". I've been informed the sidewalk is 8' wide this looks like we need to buy/rent mats at the very least. I'm wondering if I want the risk associated with the job if it's not worth it. We cannot divert a whole block of sidewalk in downtown Victoria, not without a permit at the least and making a lot of people pissed off.

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    Saftey cones and caution signs.

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    If it's a public sidewalk it gets stickier that, most city walks require a permit. They also want a Certified guy like Scott stone


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Musgraves View Post
    If it's a public sidewalk it gets stickier that, most city walks require a permit. They also want a Certified guy like Scott stone


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    The more intelligent people are the stupider the actions. I no it makes no since but I have found this to be true.


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    Thanks for the info gang, much appreciated. I will contact the city bylaws office to see what they say. Having to make the city a co-insured sure would be a headache for such a small job. I know all it takes is one person to trip/fall and they would feel like calling a lawyer, that would be a bad way to end the job! Will update with the info I receive from city.

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    I wonder how this is different legally than being out in the suburbs? I know the amount of foot traffic is astronomically higher, but its still public walkways, so maybe the same rules just different enforcement. Every residential job we do, we just park in the street, run our hose across the sidewalk, and put out a couple of safety cones.

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