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    What Happened to WCR?

    http://windowcleaningresource.com/vB...tml#post288410

    So they removed my links. All I did was make a post about how my Cleaning Equipment Trader site will always be free to post. Then this toolbag removed my links and said it was competition to WCR when it is not and was never intended to be... Now I am threatened to be banned??

    Chris are you still on this board? Can you please help me? I like the WCR and never have wanted to say anything bad about it. Why can I not post a classifieds listing ad??

    Please contact me...

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    I guess they consider everything competition now...

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    Ty did you watch Breaking Bad? It was a study in how those who one thinks are great upstanding people (Walter) can be black inside, and how guys who everybody thinks are bad are really good inside (Jesse).

    You asked what happened to WCR. I submit that nothing has happened but the revelations that only come with time.

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    Ty Window Cleaning Institute will welcome you with open arms. WCI is about education for the industry. If you're not already feel free to register (please use your real name as a user name) and post your registry in our Industry News section.
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    Looks Like Traffic will Increase today for WCR, will Check Back AM and See how it Went.
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    Chris is the same one that started all the crap about "the logo". He is a modern day Nazi and on his knees most of the time (sometimes he's on his back).
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    Quote Originally Posted by "Red" View Post
    Chris is the same one that started all the crap about "the logo". He is a modern day Nazi and on his knees most of the time (sometimes he's on his back).
    I literally posted a Nazi video of him and he removed it...

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    Are you getting calls already Ron?
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    Okay so Chris Lambrinides of WCR called me and I respect him for calling me. He agreed my site was not competition with WCR and was real cool about the whole thing.

    I have to give him credit for calling. He did not have to do that. I told him he should check his moderators because they are out of control...

    He said he would. Overall good call. Thought I would mention it on the board.

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    Figured how that would go


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    Hmmmm. Chris knows all about Doug's logo, but knows nothing about his moderators about to give you the boot.......hmmmm.






    Quote Originally Posted by AZ PowerWash Pros View Post
    Okay so Chris Lambrinides of WCR called me and I respect him for calling me. He agreed my site was not competition with WCR and was real cool about the whole thing.

    I have to give him credit for calling. He did not have to do that. I told him he should check his moderators because they are out of control...

    He said he would. Overall good call. Thought I would mention it on the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ PowerWash Pros View Post
    Okay so Chris Lambrinides of WCR called me and I respect him for calling me. He agreed my site was not competition with WCR and was real cool about the whole thing.

    I have to give him credit for calling. He did not have to do that. I told him he should check his moderators because they are out of control...

    He said he would. Overall good call. Thought I would mention it on the board.
    So, see? It was Ron's fault!

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    ALL I AM GOING TO SAY, IS WCR IS A JOKE. And unfortunately, Ron and Tony were right about the guys over there.

    Chris's call was obviously fake otherwise he would have closed the thread before it got out of hand. They personally attacked me and said things they would never dare say to my face, and that means they are cowards. I cut off all affiliation with WCR.

    Anyway, Im over it. Don't have time for it... I run a million dollar organization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ PowerWash Pros View Post
    ALL I AM GOING TO SAY, IS WCR IS A JOKE. And unfortunately, Ron and Tony were right about the guys over there.

    Chris's call was obviously fake otherwise he would have closed the thread before it got out of hand. They personally attacked me and said things they would never dare say to my face, and that means they are cowards. I cut off all affiliation with WCR.

    Anyway, Im over it. Don't have time for it... I run a million dollar organization.
    Don't let the little guys trying to get you down in life even take any real estate or time in your head Ty. They arn't worth it!

    Looks like the threat is closed now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ PowerWash Pros View Post
    ALL I AM GOING TO SAY, IS WCR IS A JOKE. And unfortunately, Ron and Tony were right about the guys over there.

    Chris's call was obviously fake otherwise he would have closed the thread before it got out of hand. They personally attacked me and said things they would never dare say to my face, and that means they are cowards. I cut off all affiliation with WCR.

    Anyway, Im over it. Don't have time for it... I run a million dollar organization.

    Ty

    I just went in and deleted the entire post.


    You have to understand while yes its my website, I don't see things that happen there instantly. The WCR forum, and social media is a very small part of my business.


    I spent the majority of my work day concentrating on our warehouse, our E-commerce business, our magazine, WCRA, PWRA, a new window cleaning business we started... etc..


    Im a really busy most of the time. I don't get to spend a lot of time on the Forum, I simply just don't see everything that happens.


    Your problem is important to me, and in each case I dropped what I was doing to reach out to you to assist with it.


    I have been nothing but cordial and receptive to everything you have requested of me.


    I can't understand why your blaming me for what other people on the forum said? I have nothing to do with them.




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    I was wrong , I thought traffic might increase but I guess no one cares.

    Well let's just Chalk it up


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    Lol. Ty, perhaps a summary of the playbook shared by Chris and Thad, Michael Hinderliter, and the woman who complains every time I type her name who used to have a board before the killed it would shed some light on this:

    1. Ron Musgraves - we must make everyone dislike him, but we have to do it in phone conversations or easily deleted Facebook rants because most people like him. Years ago we could do this openly, but that damned Tony Shelton makes us look like idiots when we do it openly.

    2. Ron Musgraves - we must do the same thing to anyone who associates with him.

    3. We must enlist feeble minded, borderline imbeciles, to attack them on our boards so we can jump in at anytime and claim we are above all that and are just trying to keep peace.

    4. We have to walk a thin line and allow the imbeciles to say whatever we want them to say, but don't have the balls to say ourselves.

    5. Keep a close eye on all the threads. Call the imbeciles or just simply get the riled up behind the scenes. Share their posts with your friends and have a good laugh till the time comes when you have to delete the thread.

    6. Be very careful of the guys who are universally liked. Be ready to male that phone call telling them you were unaware of what was being said in the thread you just screenshot and sent to your friends for a laugh.

    7. If all else fails just delete the thread telling everyone to be civil, but being careful not to piss off your imbeciles by making it look like you disapprove of their work.

    8. As a last resort ban the person the imbeciles were attacking. This will make you look tough. (It will likely kill your board In the end, but nothing is as important as the quest against Ron Musgraves.


    I hope this makes things clearer Ty.

    You see, your first and only mistake was entering their tightly controlled domain, in a unique position of living and working in the same town as Ron, without expressing a strong dislike for him.

    You are always welcome on the largest and greatest pw board ever on existence, PWI.



    Quote Originally Posted by Chris WCR View Post
    Ty

    I just went in and deleted the entire post.


    You have to understand while yes its my website, I don't see things that happen there instantly. The WCR forum, and social media is a very small part of my business.


    I spent the majority of my work day concentrating on our warehouse, our E-commerce business, our magazine, WCRA, PWRA, a new window cleaning business we started... etc..


    Im a really busy most of the time. I don't get to spend a lot of time on the Forum, I simply just don't see everything that happens.


    Your problem is important to me, and in each case I dropped what I was doing to reach out to you to assist with it.


    I have been nothing but cordial and receptive to everything you have requested of me.


    I can't understand why your blaming me for what other people on the forum said? I have nothing to do with them.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris WCR View Post
    Ty

    I just went in and deleted the entire post.


    You have to understand while yes its my website, I don't see things that happen there instantly. The WCR forum, and social media is a very small part of my business.


    I spent the majority of my work day concentrating on our warehouse, our E-commerce business, our magazine, WCRA, PWRA, a new window cleaning business we started... etc..


    Im a really busy most of the time. I don't get to spend a lot of time on the Forum, I simply just don't see everything that happens.


    Your problem is important to me, and in each case I dropped what I was doing to reach out to you to assist with it.


    I have been nothing but cordial and receptive to everything you have requested of me.


    I can't understand why your blaming me for what other people on the forum said? I have nothing to do with them.




    If somethings happening you don't like just reach out to me, you have my #.
    Thank you for deleting the post, that was very respectful of you. Because the same way this post may or may not effect your business is the same way that post may or may not effect mine. I understand you can not control what others say on your board but you are in charge of the rules and who moderates your board. You literally have a guy that is using his ego and emotions over rational thinking to moderate your board. When he gets upset or doesnt like somebody for whatever reason he decides to delete posts and threads that are not against your Terms and Conditions. Then he will refuse to admit when he was wrong.

    I would pull that guys moderator powers right away, he is out of control. I do understand that you have a bunch of guys on your board that will just want to jump in and support people blindly without looking into what has happened. But here on PWI my post would have NEVER been removed in the first place so none of this would have ever happened.

    As I don't blame you personally, I have decided to sever ties with WCR and WCRA because I am obviously not wanted over there. Which is sad, because I only try to post things that better our industry. Maybe if you would have put a bullet in that thread earlier it wouldn't have happened but it is what it is now. If your board is out of control and you don't stop it or change it or push it in a new direction than at the end of the day, you are at fault. I am done with your board now and definitely not interested in corresponding with any of the guys over there. Eventually, I feel your board will be more or less a group of 100 guys that pat each other on their backs. Newbies and outsiders are definitely not welcome there and you are not free to speak about the industry without a moderator jumping in and deleting your posts. I like forums where people can talk about whatever and all sides are heard. Sure you will have arguments from time to time just like this board does. But here ALL SIDES are equally presented and seen. You are running a concentration camp over there. Make some changes and it will better your board!

    For the record, Chris did reach out to me and then the group of goons over there started to gang up and to harass me over a link I posted to a Cleaning Equipment Trader which is just their to benefit the industry. Chris believed it would put an end to the childish things that were being said. And him and I were working out cross promotion when they continued to gang up and be nonsensical about the whole thing. Even when Chris had stood up for me and mentioned that what I posted SHOULD NOT have been removed they continued. That is my side of the story in a nutshell so the reader of this thread should understand that.

    Chris, I am not trying to jeopardize or damage your business and I never wanted to choose sides AT ALL in the fighting between boards or associations or people or whatever is going on. I am here to become a leader for the industry and help our entire industry as well as grow our entire industry. But I will say that I have watched all the fighting going on for years now. And I am finally starting to see what Ron, Tony, and other guys are talking about. I was treated like a red headed step child on a board you control. I respect you as a person but I can not pretend like I am happy or okay with what transpired at WCR.

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    For anyone that's interested Ty has his trader site info put up over on WCI. Thanks Ty for being a part of the forum.
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