Oxidized Vinyl

mpp7876

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Hey gang, I know this may have been asked before probably but any ideas on removing oxidation from vinyl siding? EaCo Chem carries something called Cleansol BC that advertises its a spray on/rinse off product but was wondering if anyone has ever heard of that or used it? Also Dave at Envirospec says the only way to remove it is to use high pressure on the whole thing. He is not a fan of the soft washers.....(really!)

Thanks in advance!
 
They can either be power washed or brushed,...When we do one we apply a butyl based cleaner on a 70+ degree day and brush,..and also charge more. With the proper cleaner and a 25 degree fan nozzle and a 600-800 PSI will do the job,...but can be a pain on a two story. I think some guys here don't even offer the service,..and I don't blame them,Ha,Ha,....Typically though just washing the dirt and mold from the oxidized siding is sufficient in alot of cases. Oxidized siding can become a real eyesore if the "house washer" gets to zealous in some spots and less on other parts. Then you have no choice but to tie it together and make it look right,..or leave with a signature of a "greenhorn".

Jeff
 
Hey gang, I know this may have been asked before probably but any ideas on removing oxidation from vinyl siding? EaCo Chem carries something called Cleansol BC that advertises its a spray on/rinse off product but was wondering if anyone has ever heard of that or used it? Also Dave at Envirospec says the only way to remove it is to use high pressure on the whole thing. He is not a fan of the soft washers.....(really!)

Thanks in advance!

Curious... You gonna try the high pressure thing Dave says is the only way??




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Dave cant pick up a phone an return a call how would he tell you how to wash a house.Slow an easy is the best way to remove oxidation.
 
What you're asking about is vinyl "restoration",...not siding washing. I bet people in the car wash business don't remove oxidized paint from a basic car wash,..it's called something else,..buffing,..and isn't expected or required as part of a washing.

If the Cleansol BC was a TRUE spray on rinse off I'd be interested,...but the word rinse has various definitions in the PW World. My idea of rinse is lower than 100 PSI and from the ground,..even on a two story,..like using a garden hose. But some some products that require a "rinse",..are talking about 600-800 PSI,..some off the shelf roof cleaners come to mind.

In most cases Purple Power or any like product will do a good job on breaking the bond between oxidation and the substrate.

Not discounting Cleansol BC,..but I'd like to hear more about it first.

Jeff
 
Cleansol is not spray on wash off. I tried it.
 
Don't waste your money on the Cleansol BC for this job or any job for that matter. I used it on a badly oxidized metal roof last year and Dave guaranteed it would work but it didn't. Didn't get my money back for the product either. Stay away from oxidation removal unless you have the time and the customer pays.
 
Jeff and Rance are right on. Stay away from it unless they are ready to pay. It is a restoration not a cleaning. The oxidized vinyl is broken down layers of the vinyl surface itself the more aggressive you get the more damage you can cause.
 
What you're asking about is vinyl "restoration",...not siding washing. I bet people in the car wash business don't remove oxidized paint from a basic car wash,..it's called something else,..buffing,..and isn't expected or required as part of a washing.

If the Cleansol BC was a TRUE spray on rinse off I'd be interested,...but the word rinse has various definitions in the PW World. My idea of rinse is lower than 100 PSI and from the ground,..even on a two story,..like using a garden hose. But some some products that require a "rinse",..are talking about 600-800 PSI,..some off the shelf roof cleaners come to mind.

In most cases Purple Power or any like product will do a good job on breaking the bond between oxidation and the substrate.

Not discounting Cleansol BC,..but I'd like to hear more about it first.

Jeff

Exactly right.
 
Just putting this out there- I've had guys down stream or mix F9 about 1:6 to 1:10 and have real good results on oxidized vinyl. If you try it let us know!

And they actually did spray it on, rinse it off. The jobs they did didn't sound as bad as yours but it would be nice to know.


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Just putting this out there- I've had guys down stream or mix F9 about 1:6 to 1:10 and have real good results on oxidized vinyl. If you try it let us know!

And they actually did spray it on, rinse it off. The jobs they did didn't sound as bad as yours but it would be nice to know.


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How long did they say they let it dwell? or are we talking near immediate rinse?
 
Just putting this out there- I've had guys down stream or mix F9 about 1:6 to 1:10 and have real good results on oxidized vinyl. If you try it let us know!

And they actually did spray it on, rinse it off. The jobs they did didn't sound as bad as yours but it would be nice to know.


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If it works for me, you should market that hard...you could make a mint!
 
Never used F9 but I thought it was an acid?? In my experience, acid cleaners don't remove oxidation as well as high PH caustics or solvents. Craig,..when you say "Real good results",..were these guys removing oxidation,..or cleaning oxidized siding? If F9 is a TRUE apply and rinse for removing oxidation,.. Although I am skeptical on any product claiming those dilution rates especially,.. for removing oxidation,.. I'm still interested. Waiting to hear from others with experience with the F9.

Jeff
 
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Funny thing about oxidized vinyl or aluminum for that matter,...the worse it is the easier it is to remove,..kinda' makes sense though,..it's degraded more, thus making it easier to remove rather than light oxidation that still has life left.

But, with that being said,..unless it is a restoration,..the heavier oxidation is harder to keep from washing away and making a mess under a normal wash.

Another thing to keep in mind,..(Which I'm sure the pros are aware of),...But,..if you apply your gutter cleaner by sprayer,..make damn sure the siding under the gutter is wet before spraying and then after spraying give it a quick rinse with low pressure. Gutter cleaners are very effective at removing oxidation,..and if it gets on there and runs down dry siding,..well,..you'll have another issue to deal with.


Jeff
 
Ok,
We have used Cleansol BC on oxidized vinyl, aluminum and metal siding for years. This stuff works AWESOME! You must mix it correctly and has to be X-Jetted on with no orifice. We could never get it right with down streaming. Wait 5 minutes apply again and rinse every board. Works fabulous!! No brushing.
 
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