There's still something I feel like I'm not catching on 100%

Luis Orts

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I have a a quick question... When should you have to recover "waste water" and when should you not?

I feel like many parking lots, garages, and other facilities don't always get the right knowledge, and to my understanding.... As a professional cleaner, though we are there to clean... We are not liable for something we don't own... However, a lot of us hold ourselves liable for it.

So is there a way to make the owners responsible for their waste water that is being collected? I spoke to Ron awhile back and he told me a little about "BMP" or otherwise known as best management practices. So using oil filters and containing water... but must we recover? If so, in what situations?

Just trying to be clear on a few things.
 
The main thing is to keep it out of the storm water drains or anything that would let it into bodies of water like creeks, streams, lakes, rivers, etc....

OR

IF the customer demands you to do otherwise when bidding on the job, remember unless you are a licensed and registered waste hauler, I would not move the wash water.

You can process (clean it up some) if you have to but that adds more expenses to the job so price accordingly.
 
Yeah true... We've been hauling it with a license to do so, however... I don't like it.

So to my understanding, it can't go into a storm drain. But it can go into a sewer drain only with "permission" from the proper authorities. But that's the part I don't understand...

Some people discharge on landscape... others do it elsewhere... and some claim it's legal... some claim it's not.
 
Trucks, houses, sidewalks, parking decks , exactly what are we talking about. Next it matters the property that your on. Third is the enforcement ok with your practices. All these play factors.


Not discharging off property should be your first option, after this is not then you have to move towards the others.


Diversion , sanitary, hauling to pretreatment facility.

There's isn't always a simple solution if your in a situation that calls for the right thing.

I can tell you 99.9% my practice will be no off property discharge.

Some circumstances on a few places call for us to properly divert.

If I'm using reclaim it's because it's making my job faster in the situation I'm in.

We maintain a few airplane hangers. No drains... I know it sounds crazy. We have to reclaim or flood other hangers. We discharge into the grass.

Parking garages with no drains. We dump into the built in interceptor at the entrances. By design it's built this way incase he garage floods they have a trap. No drains just a safe fall from keeping out fall from occurring.


If I wash a sidewalk in a center I allow the wash water to run into the onsite detention. ThAts those large drains in the center of the parking lot. They are rain water detention or retention. Not storm drains connected to your ms4.

Every property has to contain it's own rain event. Anyone tells you different they do not know what they are talking about. It the property is not compliant with current storm water regulation then it itself is a violation if Cwa. Is this your problem ?


Only of an eminent threat exist to the ms4!!!




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That was the answer to my question. But now a new question pops up and then I think I'll be clear.

Remember I asked awhile ago, about when you discharge in landscape, it was almost saying like "Hey, I'm going to throw my poo in your yard!" and that customers would be angry... When you do this, you're filtering the water, and dumping clear water..

But sludge and other crap that accumulates... Could that be bagged and thrown in the dumpster on-site? Or even if it's hauled back to our remote site, could it be disposed of by means of trash can/dumpster?

And I guess I ask this for two reasons... I figure that sometimes if a sidewalk does not need chemical, it will simply be sludge from whatever the hell is on the ground... and then sometimes, I may use EBC, and I'm kind of experementing with the concrete cleaner over from the power wash store..

Once chemical is exposed to the water, then does that change how you discharge it? (even with means of filtering)
 
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