Lets talk about Wax

wjs0311

wjs0311

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I've been doing some searching on here about adding wax to your hw mix. Some say it is snake oil, some say it works well and gives the siding a wet look. I know Russ sells a wax and have also read about people using carnauba in there mix. I haven't had anyone ask me about adding wax to a house wash package but wouldn't mind marketing it if it works. Maybe even throw it in for free if the cost is minimal and I can just add it to my hw mix. If you are using a wax are you adding it to your mix or applying after you rinse? Ratios? Issues with windows? Most of the threads I have found have been older, just wondering if there has been any advancements.

Thanks!
 
I tried wax with house wash mixes many years ago and the little bit of difference I saw only lasted 2 or 3 months then the hot Texas sun dried it out, after I ran out of the wax I did not order any more.
 
I've never tries wax,.but it has crossed my mind when I come into oxidation,..If I was going to apply it,..I would want to DS it and do it after the washing. Although I have nothing to back it up,..I think the detergent and specifically the bleach would have a counter affect the wax in a negative way,..not to mention the rinsing it away before it ever has a chance to adhere.

I think I would apply it separately and only rinse the windows,..and let the solution dry on the siding. the water would evaporate allowing the wax to remain,..and hopefully leave some sheen. But. never tried it.

Jeff
 
We use it in our premium house wash package. The stuff Russ sells is the best we've tried. After we wash the house, we walk back around quickly misting everything so its wet, then apply the wax VERY quickly to the whole house, avoiding the windows, then we walk back around one more time wetting windows and misting the house making sure to spread the wax around well, and looking for any last weep hole issues. It's a lot of walking and dragging hose, but the whole process takes less than 15 minutes and the wax is VERY concentrated so the costs to me are minimal. I tell my clients it doesn't last a year, but it does help vinyl stay cleaner a little longer. It's not the only upgrade we offer with the premium wash though, we also water fed pole the windows (which is why we try not to get wax on them) and a couple other upgrades.
 
JBurd said:
We use it in our premium house wash package. The stuff Russ sells is the best we've tried. After we wash the house, we walk back around quickly misting everything so its wet, then apply the wax VERY quickly to the whole house, avoiding the windows, then we walk back around one more time wetting windows and misting the house making sure to spread the wax around well, and looking for any last weep hole issues. It's a lot of walking and dragging hose, but the whole process takes less than 15 minutes and the wax is VERY concentrated so the costs to me are minimal. I tell my clients it doesn't last a year, but it does help vinyl stay cleaner a little longer. It's not the only upgrade we offer with the premium wash though, we also water fed pole the windows (which is why we try not to get wax on them) and a couple other upgrades.
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Does it streak the windows? Have you ever used just regular car wash wax concentrate? I just picked some up and would like to try this out tomorrow.
 
wjs0311 said:
Does it streak the windows? Have you ever used just regular car wash wax concentrate? I just picked some up and would like to try this out tomorrow.
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Most brands we've tried do not dry well on windows, and makes them very hydrophobic.
 
I have and use plexmaster occasionally. downstreaming about 8.5 oz per gallon of water. I keep it in a 5er w a screw cap. I charge about $150. I keep meaning to make a flier but haven't gotten around to it.

1. Some buy it because they like idea of a house wax, keep in mind these people wax their cars - it's the pitch if I see their car is clean.
2. I've used it to close the deal on a $500+ housewash, having the edge on a competitor who doesn't use anything
3. It coats windows well - another pitch/benefit, especially after they dry so clean with roof snot. Which I must mention, I truly believed all surfactants were created equal until my roof snot mix ended up drying on a window on a hot Houston day. I knew it was going to be troubled - until it simply rinsed off the window clean. no streaks no stains. There's no reason for me to use another product as long as I have it available.
4. If your customer is home, it's mind blowing for them to see the beaded water after rinsing. If they haven't agreed to the add on, I only do a piece of one side. Most of the time, they go for it!

One think that holds true from years of sales training (AT&T, Real Estate - Keller Williams and Red Carpet Keim, Jeffrey Gitomer, Zig Zilgar, etc), people buy from who they LIKE & TRUST - price is 3rd.
 
Hey CL,..I have considered the Plexmaster years ago but have forgotten about it. Ken Fenner mentioned it years ago and said it was a good product. Glad you mentioned it, because I still consider a wax for some of these oxidized houses I run into.

Jeff
 
CL Scott said:
I have and use plexmaster occasionally. downstreaming about 8.5 oz per gallon of water. I keep it in a 5er w a screw cap. I charge about $150. I keep meaning to make a flier but haven't gotten around to it.

1. Some buy it because they like idea of a house wax, keep in mind these people wax their cars - it's the pitch if I see their car is clean.
2. I've used it to close the deal on a $500+ housewash, having the edge on a competitor who doesn't use anything
3. It coats windows well - another pitch/benefit, especially after they dry so clean with roof snot. Which I must mention, I truly believed all surfactants were created equal until my roof snot mix ended up drying on a window on a hot Houston day. I knew it was going to be troubled - until it simply rinsed off the window clean. no streaks no stains. There's no reason for me to use another product as long as I have it available.
4. If your customer is home, it's mind blowing for them to see the beaded water after rinsing. If they haven't agreed to the add on, I only do a piece of one side. Most of the time, they go for it!

One think that holds true from years of sales training (AT&T, Real Estate - Keller Williams and Red Carpet Keim, Jeffrey Gitomer, Zig Zilgar, etc), people buy from who they LIKE & TRUST - price is 3rd.
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Great post CL. So after you wash the house you ds plexmaster even on the windows then let it dry or rinse after a dwell time?
 
A gallon of liquid carnuba wax goes a long way, at 4-6 oz. p.g. and is a great upsell on vinyl resis and mobile homes campers .
Its a great upsell on hard metal surfaces as well that get a lot of graffiti on a regular basis. The wax makes it harder for graffiti to adhere over time, and removes the tagging easier example, bathroom stalls, dumpsters, aircraft rv's. There is good money to be made by upselling a wax treatment. Contractors have been doing for a lot of years. Not new, however I have always applied after the resi wash, and have never added to my resi wash mix.
.....just my experiences with carnuba ( liquid wax). There are others brands as mentioned.
 
CL Scott said:
I have and use plexmaster occasionally. downstreaming about 8.5 oz per gallon of water. I keep it in a 5er w a screw cap. I charge about $150. I keep meaning to make a flier but haven't gotten around to it.

1. Some buy it because they like idea of a house wax, keep in mind these people wax their cars - it's the pitch if I see their car is clean.
2. I've used it to close the deal on a $500+ housewash, having the edge on a competitor who doesn't use anything
3. It coats windows well - another pitch/benefit, especially after they dry so clean with roof snot. Which I must mention, I truly believed all surfactants were created equal until my roof snot mix ended up drying on a window on a hot Houston day. I knew it was going to be troubled - until it simply rinsed off the window clean. no streaks no stains. There's no reason for me to use another product as long as I have it available.
4. If your customer is home, it's mind blowing for them to see the beaded water after rinsing. If they haven't agreed to the add on, I only do a piece of one side. Most of the time, they go for it!

One think that holds true from years of sales training (AT&T, Real Estate - Keller Williams and Red Carpet Keim, Jeffrey Gitomer, Zig Zilgar, etc), people buy from who they LIKE & TRUST - price is 3rd.
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CL, that's an absolutely terrific post. Green dot headed your way Buddy!!
 
wjs0311 said:
Great post CL. So after you wash the house you ds plexmaster even on the windows then let it dry or rinse after a dwell time?
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DO NOT LET IT DRY! I've never done it but this is the biggest thing the manufacturer emphasizes. Spray on then rinse off. I go about 40-45' (avg side of house) at a time. It also depends on weather - sunny = rinse faster!

Rapid HotClean said:
CL, that's an absolutely terrific post. Green dot headed your way Buddy!!
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Thanks man. Glad you're good!
 
CL, I totally agree with your post. We have been using Plexmaster up here in Maine for years and it is the best thing to help close the deal. In fact just a couple of weeks ago I landed a house wash by mentioning the house wax and my price came in around $75 more than the other guys and the customer told me they wanted me to do it just because we could apply the wax. Great product but definitely don't let it dry on the surface.
 
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