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    Pressure Washers Phoenix Arizona

    looking for input on type of hot water pressure washer to purchase. I've seen landa, hotsy, and delco. Is there anyone using these units? Delco is the least expensive but is it as good as a hotsy or a landa? Any response would be appreciated.

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    I have used a Delco 5300,Rk21 and a Tuff.

    The 5300 is ok but will never own another standup burner,The RK21 is ok but has Transformer problems if your battery gets low,The tuff is tops in my book,it hasn't blowed a transformer yet and it has a few years on it,not even if the battery gets to low.
    It looks alot like the RK21 only difference is fuel tank,pump, and the burner system,it has a wayne burner system on it meaning anything with a wayne burner system is better in my book

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    Thanks for the info!

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    Thumbs up Landa

    I use a landa PGHW series. This is my first machine and it works great. No problems at all yet, knock on wood. I think Landa is very good and has a great reputation. The down side is Landa is very expesive. YOu will pay twice the price for a landa compried to an other machine. Every one I know uses a Landa and every one says the same thing no problems. I would recomend a Landa if you can handle the price. I think they are worth it. And will buy another one if the time or need ever comes up.
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    i second the landa thing, dont think you gotta pay twice.
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    I also would back Landa. I have the PGHW machine and its been great. No problems. I paid around $5400 for it so it is a bit pricey. Maybe on average about $1500 more thean other machines but Landa seems ot be top notch from what I've read and experience over the years and for that I would pay more for.

    I try to go with nothing but the best.

    I would also like to add that I have another Landa PW along with a Simpson,Mi-T-M, and A Northern Machine which these three are all cold water. They work pretty good but no comparison to the Landa's.

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    You are right Ron. Maybe not twice the price but they are quite a bit higher in price, but when you want the best you have to pay a little more. When I got strated in this business I went to the Landa dealer and bought the whole package from them. It is sweet. Everything was included even the trailer so it was a no brainer for me to get everything from them. I like it a lot and will buy an other set up like the one I have anytime. You would be impressed if you saw it. If I can find a picture I will load it up for all to drull at.lol Have a good one guys .
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    Talking

    after much research and many phone calls i purchased a mi-ti-m .Hot water 5gpm 3500psi I will let you know how it goes

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    I own 5 Hot Water Machines, My Landa PGHW Is a year and a half old, has the least amount of hours, Around 250. So far almost trouble free. It went thru a couple of fuel solonoids in the first 100 hours of operation, It seemed like we had ran it out kerosene just before they failed, That green fuel tank needs a sight glass or clear line down it, It always looks like it is half full. Anyone else notice this?. I also Have a Hotsy 2800psi 4.5 gal/min. Alkota Electric hot water 1200psi 2.5 gal/min. Karcher HW 400 Electric hot water 1000psi 1.75 gal/min. And a super old Modern hot water 1200psi 2.2 gal/min. My Landa has given me the least amount of problems thus far. I do think it is a well built machine, costly YES... But very much so worth It! You will find that the Dependability is worth the extra cost when Down time is so costly!.

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    Is there any one using a mi-ti-m out there?

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    mitim is a great machine, made in Canada and there is a guy on Davidís pressure washing BB that sells them. I not sure that anyone on this bb sells them, Iím sure you will find someone who has one.

    I will post on the PW forum anyone using mitim machines.
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    We have a portable MitM 2400psi 2.5 gpm with a burner. We have had quite a few problems with it since we got it a couple of years ago. The biggest so far was the pump shaft, luckily it went out on us about a week before the warranty expired.

    If you want a good machine, the rule of thumb for us (except on the mitm) has been to get a machine that has a couple more hp than you really need on the engine (we have two 5 gpm 3000psi machines that run on 18hp engines but could run on 16hp) and a pump that is rated well above what you will be using. Would you run your car engine at 5000 rpm all the time? You are going to spend more money but if you plan to stay in business for while, you will earn it back no problem.

    As for brand name, that is a matter of personal opinion. Out here Hydrotek, Hydroblaster, All American. I havent tried Delco but have heard many good things.

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    FYI, the Mi-T-M units are built in Peosta, Iowa approximately 15 miles due west of Dubuque, Iowa. As much as we would like the milder weather Canada is still quite a distance from there which arguably is America's Heartland area.

    When you pay more for a pressure washer from a 'major' manufacturer you pay for the whole package; advertising, sales, warranty, research and development, salaries and benefits and dealer profit. If any manufacturer can reduce these costs it will be able to offer so called similar product at lower prices. Truth be told, the basic components are all fairly much the same. The difference is in the details, quality of all of the components used and costs of certification (certification designed to make your pressure washer more consistently built to a standard of safety).

    True you can buy a 5 @ 3000 from $2,400 to $10,000. The difference really is in the dealer and the details. Like the Fram oil filter commercial says, "Pay me now or pay me later." The big guys got there and stay there by providing quality product at fair pricing for everyone through professional local pressure washer dealers. Before you go off on local versus alternative sales outlets remember that anyone can buy a book from Amazon cheaper than your spouse sells at the local store but they buy from the local store because it is a friend/neighbour/relative etcetera. Sometimes saving money is no saving at all.

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    michael,

    I like your Thoughts
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    Thanks for the info guys.The dealer i bought the mi-ti-m from also carries landa i chose the mi-ti-m because the dealer assured me the quality was the same or better.After comparing the two the components are essentialy the same.21hp vanguard general pump etc.Spoke with a dealer in NJ who sold 200 of these units to contract cleaners and has had only one come back bad burner. That same dealer also carried hotsy for 15 years and had trouble with service and warranties from hotsy.The mi-ti-m also came with a selecter valve on it for tank or hose a 150.00 option on landa.I will try the mi-ti-m and fill you in thanks

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    This washer was by no meens cheap or of a lesser grade it was the same price as the landa but it had the valve on it an a real nice polished ss front control panel.I just hope it works as good as it looks!

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    This is by no meens a cheap or less quality machine.Same price as landa but came whith the valve and a really nice polished ss control panel.I hope it works as good as it looks

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    Jeff,

    You didn't happen to buy that PW from a dealer in L.I. NY by any chance?

    The dealer that I use here in L.I. also sells those pw's that you stated. I bought my Landa PGHW from my dealer. Its rated at 3000psi/4.8gpm's hot water. I love this machine. I also bought a few years back a 3000psi/4gpm cold water Mi-T-M PW from this dealer and the machine never had a major problem except for the muffler falling off a couple of times.

    I consider Landa and Mi-t-m PW's as top of the line. I would maybe put Hydrotech and one or two others in there class but nothing else.

    If you bought the Mi-t-m Hot water machine that I'm thinking of you got one hell of a machine. When I stopped by my dealer last month to pick up some chemicals he showed me this new Mi-t-m PW that has just came out and what an awesome machine. If I was looking for a new PW I would buy that one.

    Goodluck and have fun with your new PW.
    John

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    Michael,
    I am glad you found this board. Your insight on the manufacturing end of the spectrum will help us out a lot. There is a post on Dan's bbs with a picture of one of your Epp's machines. Very nice looking. Please contribute whenever you feel like it.

    For those of you that don't know Michael is Michael Stillwell from Epp's manufacturing. He has a fair bit of knowledge on teh mechanical aspects of pressure washers, or at least has really good resources.

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