House washing without a trigger-gun or x-jet

Wow, I am SOLD!
Michael, what kind of Power Washer is that ?
Is it a big one ?
What is it's GPM and Pressure Rating ?

Just a Pressure Pro 5.6 gpm....

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But really can be done with any machine with decent flow.
 

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flushing a hose of chemical takes 20 seconds tops ( with our pumps at least )
Running chems through the hoses really doesn't damage the hoses if rinsed. . :)

Wasn't worried about running chem through a hose.
I was concerned that IF we use our vari flow pump system to clean houses with there will be a good amount of strong roof strength chem left in the hoses.

I do not want my guys to hit a house with roof strength chemical!

I CAN do it, and have before IF there is not any plants.

I simply water the side of the house first, THEN spray, count to ten, and rinse.

There is an "art" to chemically cleaning a house with roof strength chemical.

I am able to "pull it off", but do NOT trust my guys who lack my experience at it.

Just one quick splash of it on a wood door or deck and you are screwed!

The vari flow system will allow for chemical strength changes, but there is still the "problem" of strong chemical left in the hose.

Unlike a single tank system, we can;t simply spray it back into the tank.

This will "pollute" our tanks.

So, Hello Driveway ???
 
I think he like the volume,its not really the pressure. I can see he has more water volume. this will increase the cleaning units in verticle surfaces for sure.

I can see the X-jet sprays further but has half the water volume doing it.

Isnt that really it?
 
I think he like the volume,its not really the pressure. I can see he has more water volume. this will increase the cleaning units in verticle surfaces for sure.

I can see the X-jet sprays further but has half the water volume doing it.

Isnt that really it?
I had an old timer pressure washing friend here in Tampa.
He is long since retired.
He cleaned houses with a HUGE medium Pressure Diapraghm Pump.
It was a John Bean FMC pump, only like 1200 PSI, but at 25 GPM!
http://johnbeansprayers.durand-wayland.com/series/accessories/pumps.html

I once bought an old Lawn and AG Spray Truck, it HAD an old John Bean on it!

Like a dumb funk, I let the spray place talk me out of it.
It was cast iron, and IMHO had no place as a roof cleaning pump.
STUPID ME.

But, I NEVER thought I would get into cleaning houses.

I PURPOSELY stayed OUT of pressure cleaning locally to respect my fellow cleaners.

Figured I would stick to my little niche market, and not get into theirs.
Stupid Me!

The locals have shown me NO such respect.
So now, I shall "return the favor", LOL :)
 
I have been downstreaming for several years now. No x-jet needed. I bought one, used it once and put it on my shelf. That was four years ago.I can clean effeciently up to 4 stories. I downstream with one machine 8.5 gpm and rinse with another 9.3 gpm. It goes very fast and does an awesome job. The one thing I hated about an x-jet was it misted way too much. Living on the beach we always have an ocean breeze and it blew all over the place. I am sure an x-jet has its place but not for what I do. I don't think an x-jet can spray four stories.
 
I like your set up Mel!
I am still hoping I can apply chemicals with my roof cleaning pumps instead of down streaming.
If I can get my variflow system working like I HOPE it will, I SHOULD be able to reduce my Chem/Water ratio down to a weak house cleaning mixture ?
Then, I can just buy ONE pressure washer to rinse with.

I have the "blessing" of already having two full time guys, might as well have em both involved ?

Assuming I can reduce my chem/water ratio, can you see any "problems" in using my roof cleaning pumps to apply chemicals with instead of downstreaming ?
 
I think he like the volume,its not really the pressure. I can see he has more water volume. this will increase the cleaning units in verticle surfaces for sure.

I can see the X-jet sprays further but has half the water volume doing it.

Isnt that really it?

ive got 4gpm pumps. i cant see my unit making it that high off of a ball valve.
I might be wrong but i think i lack the GPMs. but the xjet does get it up there.
anyone try this ball valve on a 4gpm pump.?:confused:
 
ive got 4gpm pumps. i cant see my unit making it that high off of a ball valve.
I might be wrong but i think i lack the GPMs. but the xjet does get it up there.
anyone try this ball valve on a 4gpm pump.?:confused:

Down-Streaming will actually shoot further than an x-jet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NoU_t1p4Qs

Yes 4gpm can shoot 2-3 story homes.
 
Height of spray is dependant on pressure AND flow.
Sometimes, a smaller nozzle will "compensate" for lack of flow.
But only at the expense of reduced volume of spray.

I learned a LOT from the tree spray guys.
If you look at their pump set up, as spray height capability is increased, so are both presssure and flow.

They may start out with say a 250 psi 10 gpm pump, then go to a 400 psi 15 GPM pump for greater spray heights.
Here is a chart.

Pump
Tree Pump pressure Hose Nozzle
height, size 100-foot hose, diameter, pressure,
feet GPM PSI inches PSI

Up to 15 3 400 3/8 150 to 200
Up to 25 5 400 3/8 250 to 300
20 - 35 10 400 1/2 300 to 350
30 - 45 15 400 1/2 300 to 350
35 - 50 20 400 5/8 300 to 350
45 - 65 20 800 5/8 400 to 500
65 - 85 35 800 3/4 450 to 550
85 - 115 60 800 3/4 450 to 550













In a ball valve set up like Michael Kreisel's, flow would IMHO be important.
The Ball Valve his is using kicks azz.

IMHO, if you reduce it's flow with a small GPM Machine, it will not have the great results he has demonstrated with his video.

I may be wrong, and there MAY be enough pressure to "make it ok".

Wonder if Michael ever tried his ball valve idea with a smaller GPM machine ?
 
Height of spray is dependant on pressure AND flow.
Sometimes, a smaller nozzle will "compensate" for lack of flow.
But only at the expense of reduced volume of spray.

I learned a LOT from the tree spray guys.
If you look at their pump set up, as spray height capability is increased, so are both presssure and flow.

They may start out with say a 250 psi 10 gpm pump, then go to a 400 psi 15 GPM pump for greater spray heights.
Below is a chart to read.
NOTICE how pressure, flow AND Hose Size increase as spray height is increased ?

Pump
Tree Pump pressure Hose Nozzle
height, size 100-foot hose, diameter, pressure,
feet GPM PSI inches PSI

Up to 15 3 400 3/8 150 to 200
Up to 25 5 400 3/8 250 to 300
20 - 35 10 400 1/2 300 to 350
30 - 45 15 400 1/2 300 to 350
35 - 50 20 400 5/8 300 to 350
45 - 65 20 800 5/8 400 to 500
65 - 85 35 800 3/4 450 to 550
85 - 115 60 800 3/4 450 to 550

In a ball valve set up like Michael Kreisel's, flow would IMHO be important.
The Ball Valve his is using kicks azz.

IMHO, if you reduce it's flow with a small GPM Machine, it will not have the great results he has demonstrated with his video.

I may be wrong, and there MAY be enough pressure to "make it ok".

Wonder if Michael ever tried his ball valve idea with a smaller GPM machine
 
Hey MrSqueegee,

I would like somemore info on this remote control unit and maybe some pictures to if that is possilbe.
 
Hey MrSqueegee,

I would like somemore info on this remote control unit and maybe some pictures to if that is possilbe.

This is what I am using (http://www.smarthome.com/7046b.html). You also need a 4 button transmitter. This set up had great range even behind my house when I was testing it. It worked fine 300-400 feet, but when on mounted everything permanently the range dropped down (probably interference caused by the metal frame of the skid. I'll give you more details and pics after I test the extended range antenna.
 
I have just a 4gpm machine and shoot 3 stories high no problem. You gotta use a 0040. If you're lower gpm, try a 0030, etc...you need a bit of a reduction in orifice size as opposed to a 6gpm machine, so I wouldn't try it with a 4gpm machine and a ball valve, but 4gpm gets it done just the same with the right tools.
 
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