EPA Enforcement in 2012 Protects Communities From Harmful Pollution

You think the traffic in this thread is because of your uploaded material?


Wow!

No, this forum loves disrespect and controversy. They feed on it.

As near as I can tell, it mostly newbie's and the bottom 25% of contractors that have been in business over 5 years.

The majority of contractors quit coming to this site when it turned so negative years ago. This created the demand for many other Forums who promote themselves as Professional Forums. You can find a list of these at http://www.cleanertimes.com/links_dat.cfm?section=6
 
... Here lies the dilemma, the presumption as to what the membership here is and that if you do not agree with aspects of the the approach Mr. Hinderliter advocates, you are inferior.

Regardless of what percentile the contractors here fall in to, they are entitled to disagree, and have provided valid arguments as to the source of said disagreement. **Edit** Moreover, we are still members of the pressure washing community, be it 5 months or 25 years.

Like Russ, I do not fall into the bottom 25%
 
Mr Hinderliter I have always defended you but that was a cheap shot at some of us?

I have personally been in business over 17 years and have seen growth every year and just last year we almost doubled our best year prior to that.

As an outsider looking in, I chose not to get into the argument, I chose only to read and take what applied to my company and use it where it fits.

You, as a respected member of the entire power wash community should choose your attacks more wisely in my humble opinion. I know with out a shadow of a doubt that I am not in the bottom 25% of anything.

Russ:

I said mostly, and that does not mean everyone. They will know if the shoe fits or not.

Just look at how I have been treated.
 
Well, there you have it.

We are worthless pieces of garbage on the worst Forum on the net.

Yet, it is the only forum that Robert can find where anyone cares enough about what he has to say to even click on his posts.

Many of his links to the other "fine" forums are dead. Including his own.

Is there anymore reason to continue with this conversation?

Let's move on and let Robert continue in his quest. He has no intention of doing anything here but wasting our time.

But don't be fooled. Don't let the PWNA allow Robert to fall on the sword for this like they did Mike Hilborne. They have been just as guilty of this as they were when they sent Mike to investigate Ron.

The PWNA had every opportunity to step in here and ask Robert to work with us. But they feel the same about us as Robert does. It would give them nothing but pleasure to put us all out of business.

There is nothing on the planet that would make me want to work with someone who feels the way he does about the fine contractors on this forum.
 
As near as I can tell, it mostly newbie's and the bottom 25% of contractors that have been in business over 5 years.

The majority of contractors quit coming to this site when it turned so negative years ago. This created the demand for many other Forums who promote themselves as Professional Forums.


The thread is popular because of your teachings.....oh, wait, scratch that, it popular because it's full of disrespectful noobs that like to argue.


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3. Thegrimescene.com's three-month global Alexa traffic rank is 410,891.
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7. Powerwashnetwork.com is ranked #2,291,294 in the world according to the three-month Alexa traffic rankings
 
The thread is popular because of your teachings.....oh, wait, scratch that, it popular because it's full of disrespectful noobs that like to argue.


1. Cleaningtalk.com is ranked #152,960 in the world according to the three-month Alexa traffic rankings.
2. Propowerwash.com's three-month global Alexa traffic rank is 268,811.
3. Thegrimescene.com's three-month global Alexa traffic rank is 410,891.
4. Uamcc.org's three-month global Alexa traffic rank is 1,021,977.
5. Ptstate.com has a three-month global Alexa traffic rank of 1,499,711
6. Pressurenet.net has a three-month global Alexa traffic rank of 2,082,069
7. Powerwashnetwork.com is ranked #2,291,294 in the world according to the three-month Alexa traffic rankings

Does it. say where everybody left PWI and went too....???
 
Hey Mods. I don't know if this site is searchable to the outside. If it is can you ban Robert or remove all of this spam he keeps posting. We are enabling him by having all of this up here showing us as polluters.


Imagine how this entire thread looks to a...Employee of an AHJ, EPA employee.

There is Robert and John on one side.....and everyone else on the other side.

Two sides.....here

Let's forget for a moment who claims to be working on who's behalf and look at the "third" side. Now, if they (employee of an AHJ, EPA employee) had to pick a side, align themselves with one view or the other....which side do you suppose they would pick?

That's the reality folks. Robert has taken a position that is more aligned with the regulators. No amount of words of assurance, or water carrying from PW*A members can change that.

The question is why would someone supposedly representing the contractors have more in common with the regulators? Why run around and present stiffer regulations then the AHJ's already have?
 
The question is why would someone supposedly representing the contractors have more in common with the regulators? Why run around and present stiffer regulations then the AHJ's already have?

I'm gonna take a guess, and you know I'm a little slow.....but I'll guess $$$$$$$
 
I'm gonna take a guess, and you know I'm a little slow.....but I'll guess $$$$$$$


Does anyone know if he's a environmental activist? That could be it also.

It would be easier if he just told us...it really is a simple question. Why push the EPA or local authorities for stricter reg's if you are on our team?


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oh yea. This is a hot thread. Years ago we would put anything in these Powerwashing bulletin boards to get it to rise in the ranking and the only way to do that was to bring in controversial subjects such as religion & politics. This was to help friends like Ron & Beth for example to help them with there sites to keep it going. I can name a few industry sites that failed because they had no traffic.

Today we can talk industry related stuff like this thread(hottest one I ever seen in the Industry) that can elevate traffic. So I do this now for trying to find answers as well as to keep the ratings up for old friends such as Ron even though we bicker continuously on the net.

Love to see this thread hit 30,000 views and today in my life, more importantly we find acceptable answers.
 
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