Draw rate?
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Rapid HotClean
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It varies based on GPM and which proportioner is inserted. I don't use the proportioners and I don't think many guys do.
http://ep.yimg.com/ty/cdn/sunbrite/X-Jet-Proportioner-Chart.pdf
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Diamond Jim
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I know a few guys that apply roof solution with a 2 gallon a minute pressure washer and x jet it up .
Ralph Q
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Hey Ted do you mix down your cleaning mix, if so, whats your concrete cleaning ratio/mix look like? It looks like using it with no proportioner is a pretty hot mix.
Solopressure washer
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I guess that is with the stock hose, so what is the rate of any machine when you lengthen the draw hose?
Solopressure washer
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Thats a lot of hose, I was thinking of as much as 50 feet max and down.
GrassButler
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Ive got 50' rolled up with mine.
Solopressure washer
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And the rate is lower or the same?
Rapid HotClean
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Ralph, it all depends upon how many GPMs your pump puts out.
Let's assume a 5 gallon pail, no proportioner, and a 4 GPM machine. Per the X-Jet chart the spray ratio would be 1.6 gallons of water per 1.0 gallons of cleaning solution. So, for a 5 gallon pail the total amount of liquid you'd be spraying would be:
(1.6 x 5) = 8 gallons water + 5 gallon pail = 13 gallons of total spray
Let's say you fill your 5 gallon pail with straight 12.5% SH. The chem strength coming out of the end of the X-Jet nozzle is:
(12.5 x 5)/13 = 4.81%.
Another way to figure this is:
12.5%/(1.6 + 1.0) = 4.81%
So let's say you're washing a house and you only need a solution strength of around 2.0%. You'd pour 3 gallons of water into the pail and then add 2 gallons of 12.5%. The mixture strength is figured as:
(2 x 12.5)/13 = 1.92%
To answer your question about strength on concrete, it depends upon temperature (colder = hotter mix). Heavy moss = hotter mix.
I X-Jet chems with a 3.5 GPM machine (less runoff = less chem). So the very hottest I can apply at is:
I X-Jet chems with a 3.5 GPM machine (less runoff = less chem). So the very hottest I can apply at is:
12.5/2.4 = 5.21%
It's way faster to increase or decrease mix strength in the pail than it is by screwing around with the proportioners. That's why I don't use them.
Rapid HotClean
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According to the manufacturer, the maximum X-Jet Hose length is 30 feet. Over 30 feet and the draw rate drops, irrespective of the machine's PSI or GPM production.
Ralph Q
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5.2% is still pretty hot, that's even enough to do a roof (40% I think) . But according to that chart 3.5 gpm is 1.4:1 That would be 8.92% wouldn't it?
Never mind I forgot to add them together 2.4! Duh.
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Rapid HotClean
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1.4 + 1.0 = 2.4
12.5/2.4 = 5.2%
With 10% SH It'd Be:
10.0/2.4 = 4.2%
12.5/2.4 = 5.2%
With 10% SH It'd Be:
10.0/2.4 = 4.2%
The X-Jet chart goes down to a 2.0 GPM machine and shows a ratio of 0.8-1.0. So about the hottest an X-Jet can go is:
0.8 + 1.0 = 1.8
12.5/1.8 = 6.94%
12.5/1.8 = 6.94%
GrassButler
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No draw issues. I hate the bucket and 50 feet of tangled poly hose. X-jet has its need and use. I prefer to down stream and break out my chem cart when I need stronger mix.
Ralph Q
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Got it. Even with 8gpm and a 3:1 ratio. that's still a good mix. (for concrete) Throw a little caustic in there and it's EZ cleaning!
Okay, so I'm looking at the x-jet for an effective and efficient roof cleaning back up or additional setup. My goal is to pull the chemical from the trailer around 100'. I have never use an X-Jet but for about six months I have been down streaming at the gun. I will not go back to down streaming on the trailer the added benefit out weighs the cons. I would love to be able to X-Jet a roof. This would make for a simple trailer setup able to do any job with only a pressure washer.
GrassButler
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Just but the X-jet...... get 100' of hose... if it doesn't draw..... keep cutting down 10' sections until it does draw. I prefer my 50' of hose.....I don't have to move the bucket/tote as much.