Eliminating rinsing

Jonathan Ellis

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I am looking into ways to eliminate rinsing. In Prattivlle, USA ROse has his machine and said that it eliminates rinsing, I have talked with others that have reclaim equipment and the story remains constant, with a recovery surface cleaner, you can eliminate rinsing. Seeing as most of our time is spent rinsing, if we could cut this out, we would do jobs a lot faster. I have a meeting with a guy Friday about a vacuum that could be mounted on top of an IBC that is in my truck where the reclaim would drop directly into the tank. Does anyone have any other suggestions?

NOTE: This is not to cause another heated debate about EPA regulations. This has nothing to do with the epa!!
 
There are many ways to do this, electric vacuum motors, gas vacuum blowers,etc... You need a container that is made for vacuum, not just something like an ibc container, it will collapse under vacuum. Most 55 gallon drums will collapse under vacuum but some are made thicker and some are rated for vacuum.

The electric motors are rated for so many minutes or hours continuous duty, look into that so you are not sold something that you have to shut down every hour or so if you are working on a huge job.

Gasoline blower vacuums like the Steel Eagle Fury, Scirocco, etc... will run all day long without any problem, kind of the same thing as those carpet cleaner truck-mount systems.

I agree about the reduction of rinsing, only problem that I see is the large amounts of dirt when done, the sludge in the bottom of the drum and where you are going to pump all that recovered water if you don't filter it for re-use.

You will be suprised at the amount of dirt recovered, most of the time it will fall-out into the bottom of the recovery tank or primary knock-out tank if you have several tanks.

You can make something or buy something ready to go.

Do you have a lot of knowledge about vacuum systems or would rather buy something already made?

Some systems do not have a pump-out feature, that is something you need unless you want to shut down the job and manually drain a tank.
 
notm much knowledge. Would rather buy it. I would have something to catch the dirt and other contaimnates. As far as dumping... there would be a hose coming out of the bottom running into the storm drain, where else? There are no plans to haul the water.

BTW, have you gotten it?
 
I've got a vacuboom, complete with 20' of boom I'd let go for $1000, been used maybe ten times in its life, a real dust collector.... pm me if interested... its the single motor unit though...
 
I have a vacuboom as well, no offense, they are not worth $1K brand new. 10 times? Is that 10 jobs? I dont think I have used mine that much- on jobs in 4 years of having it.
 
We have a steel eagle fury and just love it. However the 55 gallon pre sediment tank has to be cleaned after every use. I will never forget the day when we just finished cleaning a brand new SAMs club and by the end of the day we had over 30 gallons of pure sand. I can tell you sometimes it can be a real pain. You have to put some of your body weight into pushing the steel eagle surface tool because of the suction it creates.

We are looking at getting another another vac and are looking at the delco vs-55xl. It has a more manageable filter to deal with and it's a bit more manuverable.
 
Jonathan, no rinsing sounds like a wonderful thing. I have never used the vacuum surface cleaner but I have heard a few times like revolve77 said that it is tough to push around, that could be a deal breaker?
 
I have a vacuum and surface cleaner to go with it. In my opinion you are better off rinsing. Lots of issues with reclaim units that off set the rinse time. Just my opinion.
 
Our reclaim work goes alot faster while using the vacuboom and fury. The work thats involved setting up, tearing down and using the steel eagle surface tool is time consuming. Not to mention lugging around 200+ ft of that 2" vacuum hose along with your pressure hose.
 
Jonathan, no rinsing sounds like a wonderful thing. I have never used the vacuum surface cleaner but I have heard a few times like revolve77 said that it is tough to push around, that could be a deal breaker?

We have the steal eagle fury as well, as far as the suction the SC creates, We have to adjust the height to get them max. suction as still allow it to move freely.
It will make a difference weather you are going over a smooth surface or a rough surface. You need to adjust to so no water is leaving under SC and where you can still move easily.
 
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