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mohadeeb

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Simce i'm in ya'll's neck of the woods and pretty new to the biz, do you guys recapture your waste water regularly? Are we required to do that here in Alabama. I tried calling my local waste water official and left messages but no return calls. If you do collect what is general rule. I believe letting it run into gutters, storm drains a big no no? Do you take it to waste water treatment facility? And what about the grease waste from hood cleaning?


Thanks,

Nam
Dirty Jobs Unlimited, LLC
www.dirtyjobsunlimited.com
 
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It's only bad if you get caught......kidding

Most of everywhere I clean has their own drain system.
You will have to ask Trey about the hoods, me and Russ don't do them.
 
Maybe I should keep my day job a little longer LOL. what exactly do you all mean by drywell?

go to Wal Mart (a new one) look for what YOU may think are storm drains in the parking lot, those are on site dry wells that are there to catch sediment from Wal Marts parking lot , that is where you want your waste to go
 
go to Wal Mart (a new one) look for what YOU may think are storm drains in the parking lot, those are on site dry wells that are there to catch sediment from Wal Marts parking lot , that is where you want your waste to go


But it is my understanding (as of right now)that wal-mart will not let anyone dump there, including the one's who clean their stores
 
But it is my understanding (as of right now)that wal-mart will not let anyone dump there, including the one's who clean their stores

I didnt say go dump there , they are just a good example you can find a wal mart anywhere , had I said Publix he may or may not have had one , see what I was doing ?

Also you are not dumping if you clean there , you are diverting waste water to the spot it is intended to go to in the first place , if you reclaim you MUST dump but as I am sure you are seeing by now you dont need to reclaim as much as they salespeople tell you ....... as long as you are not degreasing and only cleaning walkways you can use hot water and clean anywhere w/o reclaimation

I was in Maryland and someone saw fit to call the water police (EPA) on me because I was not reclaiming my water , after a short 2 min explaination of our cleaning process I was told to continue with what I was doing, then we talked about Alabama and Clemson for 20 more min's and then said goodnight ...... turns out he was a Clemson grad and we are playing each other in the kick off classic this year

But dont make hard what is easy
 
I didnt say go dump there , they are just a good example you can find a wal mart anywhere , had I said Publix he may or may not have had one , see what I was doing ?

Also you are not dumping if you clean there , you are diverting waste water to the spot it is intended to go to in the first place , if you reclaim you MUST dump but as I am sure you are seeing by now you dont need to reclaim as much as they salespeople tell you ....... as long as you are not degreasing and only cleaning walkways you can use hot water and clean anywhere w/o reclamation

I was in Maryland and someone saw fit to call the water police (EPA) on me because I was not reclaiming my water , after a short 2 min explanation of our cleaning process I was told to continue with what I was doing, then we talked about Alabama and Clemson for 20 more Min's and then said goodnight ...... turns out he was a Clemson grad and we are playing each other in the kick off classic this year

But dont make hard what is easy

yeah I am still wrestling with the right way to do it, I reclaimed a BJ's club this weekend and I collected over 1000 gals water and went over to the drain that went to the retention pond and let the my waste water go there.

What should I do if I use caustic on entrance ways and reclaim that,
how should dispose of that?

I know you have been swamped, but I would like to pick yer brains if you had time to talk (without all the roaming charges)

I always appreciate your input!!
 
Her in my neck of the woods, The SWRQCB will not let you dump into a dry well. In my neck of the woods, you need to have a filter that is approved by the sewer agencies. You must also, every year or so, get testing of the samples of the Grey Water before, during and after processing. This test is about $1,000 to $2,500 per test. We have to pay.

For example, we just did a City Parking Garage here in California. In the conference before we did the work, there was 17 people representing the different departments associated with the garage and the cleaning. I had 17 bus. cards with cell phones for problems that may arise. Each person is for a different situation.

The EPA reps was in a truck filming our cleaning with ticket books in hand. They parked outside in shifts of 8 hours. We worked 16 hour straight . We had two inspectors there during that time for 3 days. They walked the job site at their leisure ( Usually every 40 minutes). They took sampling of the water from the filter. And they parked 25 ft from the storm drain with their camera on their dash focused on the drain. During the job we had 5 people from 5 different agencies doing a surprise inspection at different times of the day, one inspection was done at 3 am.

The City of Concord has just passed a law requiring all pressure washer's who clean cement with just hot water (without detergent ) to filter (lightly their water before it goes down the storm drain.

In all cases, dry wells are to be used by the facility of where they were installed only and is not intended for pressure washing. We will be asked to cease the cleaning. If continued, we will get fined.

The theory behind that as explained to me is this. Lets say the dry well is not maintained or is not able to handle the waste for what ever reason. Who is responsible? The owner, who will most likely denied that he gave you permission to dump into his well, or the pressure washer who said he had permission to dump. By having your own filter on site, the EPA has a clear channel to go after you if your filter is not maintained or is having issues.

So if your state lets you dump into a dry well, be advise, that is going to change. Our State catches you, it is a $10,000 fine for the first offense. All ready, one county has fined over $132,000 for pressure washers using a dry well and or no filter. Shoot, if I could do what you guys do, I would be done in 1/2 the time.
 
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AL I'm not sure myself but I thought Grey water couldn't be dumped in a retention pond Could someone who knows explain

yeah its gets complicated, I talked with a bunch of you guys, still trying to figure out the right way.
move it off property .....and your hauling hazards, so we left it on site this time.
No one knows but me what I do with the water (and about 1,000 of you guys) I wish it was cut and dry, but its not.
I like what Russ said "don't make hard what is easy"
 
In florida I will address this more, Fl has approved reclaimation onsite and built in by the company i have posted in the past.

By the way maryland is 95% complient on property discharge.

You guys are getting on a subject that has many variables.

Al, dumping water elsewhere is not better BMP...sorry buddy.

I hate the people that get this confused for personal gain.

Lead people down the wrong paths to sell equipment and tell goverments we can help you write BMPS.
 
Al, dumping water elsewhere is not better BMP...sorry buddy.

So let me get this straight.....If I am on a property and if I wash and do not reclaim and water drains into retention pond on property.....thats allright.

Now if I reclaim on the same property and collect 500 gal drive across parking lot and drain in same retention pond thats wrong?
 
So let me get this straight.....If I am on a property and if I wash and do not reclaim and water drains into retention pond on property.....thats allright.

Now if I reclaim on the same property and collect 500 gal drive across parking lot and drain in same retention pond thats wrong?

Are you still on the same property?
 
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