Which Non Motorized surface cleaner is best?

Jim@Garagecleaning

Jim@Garagecleaning

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OK, I am thinking about buying a 36" + Non Motorized surface cleaner for smaller area's. Some have three nozzles, some have 2. Some have a water broom with a gum remover.... don't know about that one.
Lets face it, there's a lot on the market. Which one cleans best from your experiences. (Most aggressive) for 6 GPM +.

List your responses below....:confused:
 
Isn't the question, which one will hold up to your equipment? If I were you, I would ask alot about the quality of the swivel on the various 36" surface cleaners.
 
Jim@Garagecleaning said:
OK, I am thinking about buying a 36" + Non Motorized surface cleaner for smaller area's. Some have three nozzles, some have 2. Some have a water broom with a gum remover.... don't know about that one.
Lets face it, there's a lot on the market. Which one cleans best from your experiences. (Most aggressive) for 6 GPM +.

List your responses below....:confused:
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Its easy landa Water jet
 
BUNN said:
Isn't the question, which one will hold up to your equipment? If I were you, I would ask alot about the quality of the swivel on the various 36" surface cleaners.
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I agree. I use Deublin's 927 model swivel. Which ever surface cleaner I buy, I will hopefully switch to the Deublin.
 
They all spin and spray water.

I think you really have to experiment with number of bars, spray pattern and 'nozzle tilt' and find what works best.

I think whisper wash uses 1 inch aluminum bars on the spinner, I think that's the best there, but you might be able to order the rotary arm from them and use it on another cleaner.

I would never get one with fixed wheels - big guy, landa etc.
Not being able to push/pull the thing around in any direction would drive me crazy.

I've got thousands of hours on my mosmatic swivel and its like $130.
Here's a stout swivel for $180 http://www.ssswivel.com/

I wouldnt go over 24" with 6 gpm
 
Over the last 8 years, I have had a variety of surface cleaners: 18" Whirl-A-Way with casters, 20" Landa Water Jet (with gun), a 20" GP Hammerhead "floating", a 24" Steel Eagle (3 wheel) and finally, a 28" 2-nozzle Gig Guy. I use the Big Guy everyday and carry the GP in my van as a back-up. (I have another BG - just in case.)

By far, I prefer the Big Guy, though 8 gpm through the GP will almost make it hover! Seriously though, I do 99% residential and for ease of use, speed and quality of the cleaning, the Big Guy wins. I have used most of the surface cleaners with a variety of machines - 4, 5.5 and 8 gpms - hot and cold.

My favorite-to-use was the Landa. The problem I had with it was that it was way too delicate. I had to carry spare spray bars and tips and was always fixing something. When the swivel went, the cost of repair was crazy...but it sure looked good.
 
looking at the BIG GUY on pressure teks site it says temp is good to 212 how do you guys with the higher temp machines deal with this?
 
I know for a fact that the Deublin's 927 model swivel SOLID Stainless Steel has a much higher rating than 212 degrees. Also you can force more than 4 GPMs though it. I have seen people ran 8 GPM through them. They work just fine. I personally ran 275 degrees. Granted they wear out faster, but I usually get 3 to 4 years of use from them before rebuilding them. If I was to run 212 at 4 gpm's.... they probable would never wear out.

Thats why I want a Deublin's 927 model swivel vs something else.
 
Whisper Wash makes the 28" Big Guy and the 36" Maxima. I have the Big Guy, a couple of the 24" Steel Eagle machines and some of the smaller ones from both companies.

I think you should find someone close to you that has a Big Guy or Maxima and go check them out. I really like the Big Guy because it is so easy to maneuver but I did need a swivel rebuild after around 2 years.

Having those big back wheels on it make it easy to push and it is very light weight and does have the 1" one piece spray bar that has the nozzles angle-drilled so you never have to worry about if the individual bars are at the right angle. It is tough too, I hit a cut off bolt stud that was in the concrete that I did not see and it tore the spray nozzle out of the spray bar but did not bend or break the spray bar. The threads were damaged very bad so I did not try to repair them thinking that it might make that side unbalanced.

My 28" Big Guy weighs less than my 24" Steel Eagle so if you like how the Steel Eagle handles, this one will be a little bigger but lighter. The Maxima is bigger but I have not tried it out yet.

Hope this helps.
 
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Jim@Garagecleaning said:
I know for a fact that the Deublin's 927 model swivel SOLID Stainless Steel has a much higher rating than 212 degrees. Also you can force more than 4 GPMs though it. I have seen people ran 8 GPM through them. They work just fine. I personally ran 275 degrees. Granted they wear out faster, but I usually get 3 to 4 years of use from them before rebuilding them. If I was to run 212 at 4 gpm's.... they probable would never wear out.
Thats why I want a Deublin's 927 model swivel vs something else.
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Jim I think its great you run So much hot water through your equipment.
212 degrees on standing water = Steam
260 degrees on circulating (moving) water = steam
I think you should discuss for us laymen guys how your equipment holds up to steam v/s hot water. There is a Huge difference,I am just being an observant contractor who is trying to learn more from you. Since you are so much more advanced than the rest of us. You must be the leader in the industry. I think I read an article in Cleaner Times magazine about your amazing company.
 
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