Chlorine diaphram Pumps

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beastud

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If someone already posted on this, I apologize ahead of time but I didn't see any matches.

Has anyone tried these pumps for pumping sodium hypochloride or sodium hydroxide (basically chlorine or caustic solutions)? It looks like a reasonably priced alternative to 12V electric pumps or the other more expensive diaphram pumps.

Comet Diaphragm Pump — 3.5 GPM, 220 PSI, 3/4in. Shaft, Model# MC16 | Sprayer Pumps | Northern Tool + Equipment

Or this one?

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...877?xsell=true http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200329877_200329877?xsell=true
 
beastud said:
If someone already posted on this, I apologize ahead of time but I didn't see any matches.

Has anyone tried these pumps for pumping sodium hypochloride or sodium hydroxide (basically chlorine or caustic solutions)? It looks like a reasonably priced alternative to 12V electric pumps or the other more expensive diaphram pumps.

Comet Diaphragm Pump — 3.5 GPM, 220 PSI, 3/4in. Shaft, Model# MC16 | Sprayer Pumps | Northern Tool + Equipment

Or this one?

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...877?xsell=true
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Way too expensive..
Delavan FatBoy is what you need. I abuse mine on daily basis and never a problem. Call Lori with Pressure Washer Products for a good deal (half of what you found).
For the price you are looking, you can get a dedicated chlorine air pump which will last forever and can handle height. Call Lori for it as well :).

D.
 
Larry Millett has a story for you about the Comet Pump! I think his hair turned grey over it!

Thank you for the kudos, guys!

Lori
 
PWProducts said:
Larry Millett has a story for you about the Comet Pump! I think his hair turned grey over it!

Thank you for the kudos, guys!

Lori
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It was already grey. It was after buying it that I began losing all my hair from pulling it out. Don't waste your money on the Comet. You will spend more time babysitting it and changing it's diapers than working it. Trust me!
 
Thanks for the help everyone. I have been using electric Shurflo pumps for years and I am sick of them. The fat boy looks good but there has to be a better way. After all........who uses an electric powerwasher?? I talked to Lori and she was very helpful. I like the diaphram pumps but not the air driven. I hate the idea of the expense and hassle of the air compressor. Why bother with the compressor if you are not pumping gasoline or another extremely flammable with it? Why not a diaphram pump driven directly by a gas motor? I was hoping to not need to drop $1500+ on the setup but it looks that way.
 
beastud said:
Thanks for the help everyone. I have been using electric Shurflo pumps for years and I am sick of them. The fat boy looks good but there has to be a better way. After all........who uses an electric powerwasher?? I talked to Lori and she was very helpful. I like the diaphram pumps but not the air driven. I hate the idea of the expense and hassle of the air compressor. Why bother with the compressor if you are not pumping gasoline or another extremely flammable with it? Why not a diaphram pump driven directly by a gas motor? I was hoping to not need to drop $1500+ on the setup but it looks that way.
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How do you figure $1500+ ?

The air compressor at Home Depot is about $700 and the All Flo pump through Lori at Pressure Washer Products is about $450.

Since you have been using pumps for years, use that hose and hose reel unless it is smaller than 1/2", if so then I would upgrade the hose to 1/2" and that is plenty.

I have been using the 1/2" hose with my PT State Bandit Roller Pump for the past 2.5 years (pump would not work this past monday so I changed it out with a new roller pump) and that pump flows 6gpm at 150psi and I have never had a problem with flow. I would not use 3/8" hose with that pump, too restrictive.

I will be buying the All Flo pump in a few months so when this roller pump goes out the whole rig will be changed out for the air compressor and air diaphragm pump which will give me a little more room on the trailer for more chemicals and supplies so it will be a win-win situation.
 
Hi Chris,


Ok…let’s compare numbers.
I was sold on the All Flow until I saw the air supply needs. I was told I would need an 11 cfm compressor to run the ALL Flow pump or a gas powered compressor of about 5.5 hp or more. I cannot find a new one near $700…only well used ones. You mentioned Home Depot for the compressor. What they show in stock costs $1000.</O:p
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That is $1000 plus $55 in sales tax = $1055.
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The All Flow with tax and shipping as you said…about $450. That is $1500 already. Now add in stainless fittings, hoses to connect the two units, air flow regulator, and any other peripherals to make this flow a liquid……see what I meant?
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That compressor takes up lots of space compared to a gas powered diaphragm pump…..but I am on the fence and can be swayed either way if I am missing something here! I am looking for a longer term low upkeep solution to spraying chems on decks and roofs.....no more batteries, charging, I already need gas for the powerwasher..
Thanks agian everyone.
 
I know you're not into the electric pumps anymore but we have been using the fatboy for over a year, doing 2 roofs a day plus house washes, decks, fences etc....and finally changed it out yesterday and only because of an electrical problem that fried it. It is rated at 7gpm at 60psi. We have done over 50,000 sqft of condos, we have done 20,000 sqft house, etc and never had an issue. There really is no need to spend $1500 on a pump.
Just my 2 cents.
 
Oh and as for the battery we wired it into the trailer harness so we never have to charge it.
 
That rigid is the one that I was talking about at Home Depot.

Pump, compressor, some hoses and air dryer/oiler you are well under $1500.00 using hoses you already have.

It all comes down to personal preference.

I saw Scott D. when he was doing a roof for me that I could not take care of and the Fatboy pump did a great job.
 
Christopher said:
That rigid is the one that I was talking about at Home Depot.

Pump, compressor, some hoses and air dryer/oiler you are well under $1500.00 using hoses you already have.

It all comes down to personal preference.

I saw Scott D. when he was doing a roof for me that I could not take care of and the Fatboy pump did a great job.
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And that roof was kind of a PITA! Did you ever end up washing her house?
 
I gave her the price but she never had me clean the house. I gave her a very good price considering all the algae that house had on it, O Well.

I have done some other properties in that community but no roofs, people still don't know that roofs can be cleaned easily and safely.
 
Christopher said:
I gave her the price but she never had me clean the house. I gave her a very good price considering all the algae that house had on it, O Well.

I have done some other properties in that community but no roofs, people still don't know that roofs can be cleaned easily and safely.
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yea, it feels like people are finally getting it here, and the market is starting to break. Not on a large scale yet, but enough where all the roof cleaners I know are booked out 2+ weeks at 2 a day
 
beastud said:
Hi Chris,


Ok…let’s compare numbers.
I was sold on the All Flow until I saw the air supply needs. I was told I would need an 11 cfm compressor to run the ALL Flow pump or a gas powered compressor of about 5.5 hp or more. I cannot find a new one near $700…only well used ones. You mentioned Home Depot for the compressor. What they show in stock costs $1000.</O:p
<O:p</O:p
That is $1000 plus $55 in sales tax = $1055.
<O:p</O:p
The All Flow with tax and shipping as you said…about $450. That is $1500 already. Now add in stainless fittings, hoses to connect the two units, air flow regulator, and any other peripherals to make this flow a liquid……see what I meant?
<O:p></O:p>
That compressor takes up lots of space compared to a gas powered diaphragm pump…..but I am on the fence and can be swayed either way if I am missing something here! I am looking for a longer term low upkeep solution to spraying chems on decks and roofs.....no more batteries, charging, I already need gas for the powerwasher..
Thanks agian everyone.
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Russ,

Did you know you can use nozzles as small as the ones you use on your surface cleaner? YOU control the amount of chemical that you apply on the roof. You do not have to flood the roof or worry about have the right very large nozzle orifice to apply the chemical. When you use the air diaphragm system, the amount of money that you save in chemical throughout five years will pay for the pump and compressor many times over. The pump will last more than the FIVE year warranty.

Why spend the extra money on the stainless fittings when they will corrode? Brass is a third of the price and will last just as long.

Great questions!

Lori
 
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