I have to say as much as many of us like Russ and appreciate the heck out of the many posts he has done over the years in helping so many contractors I am deeply disappointed in how he handled this here. I may be mistaken but I do believe that Russ has some dealings with TWS and he may have received them thru the UAMCC bb. Like I said my facts could be a little off there.
Here you are admittingly stating something that may or may not be true so why even mention it unless you have your facts straight first like you say yourself? Unless it is to throw a cloud of darkness over Russ but with a weasel out clause so you don't look bad saying it. Just don't say it unless you have your facts straight like you yourself say.
Many of us wanted Russ to consider teaching a commercial Flatwork class at the UAMCC Convention in October because of his vast knowledge in this field. Nick the Cleaner could be just as good here in doing this also as are some others. Personally I was against Russ teaching this class if there was another UAMCC member who wanted to teach this class over him. I think I may have had the only opinion about this along these lines but it makes sense to me to give the UAMCC guys first crack on something they want to do because its "There Org" first. Still my decision as many of them tend to be a bit unpopular the majority of us wanted Russ to teach.
I don't get this one at all, you would rather have someone with probably a lot less knowledge than someone that does more concrete in a week than most do in a month or more just because they are a uamcc member? Wow! That really does not make sense at all but everyone is entitled to their opinions, no matter if they make sense or not.
Here is probably how that scenario played out:
People: Hey, let's get someone that cleans concrete teach all the others at the meeting about cleaning concrete.
Smart Person: No, let's have Russ teach it, he does a lot more volume than most other contractors out there and really knows what he is doing.
John: No, let's have a uamcc member teach the class, Russ is a great guy but he is not a uamcc member, that is ok, we have other members that can teach the class, it is not important that Russ cleans more concrete in a week than most do in a month or longer, that is not important, It is not important that Russ has many years experience dealing with Residential and Commercial and Military installations, what is important is that a uamcc member teaches the class whether they clean a few sidewalks a week or maybe a shopping center here and there, it has to be a uamcc member teaching the class.
Wow, that sure makes sense. Not!
So now where here today and Russ is throwing Carlos's honest intentions right under the bus because of Carlos's kindness.
Wow, let's twist it around to change the view and opinions.
Of course It was fair for Carlos to call Russ and say "Hey Pal there's a great chance a guy like you can handle a potential large account if you become a UAMCC member. Every other UAMCC member has this opportunity so Carlos liking Russ figured it was OK to tell him about this potential that all other UAMCC members have. What can I say...Carlos likes Russ like many of us Do. I like Russ and I never met or spoke to the guy.
Russ it looks to me like you just don't buy into an org mentality in the Powerwashing Industry and thats fine but you didn't have to try and embarrass a real Class Guy like Carlos by doing the post that you did here.
Wow, more twisting or is it called Spinning now?
Its Hurtful, Counter Productive, mean spirited and just well beneath you a man of respect to do this.
Let's try to make Russ look bad and spin this as good as we can and start the damage control ASAP!!!!
People, Look at me! I need attention! I will take care of Carlos!
Unless I am just reading you wrong so many miles away.
Yes, you are but don't try to spin things into something that is not there and don't try to make Russ out to be the bad guy!
This is the way I see it on my laptop and hopefully whether you can agree with me or not you can at least respect my honest answer to you with no mean spirited intentions what so ever from me to make a point.
Just spinning it into something that it is not and trying to make Russ look bad but some people might not see the spinning for what it really is. My B.S. Detector siren is almost broken from this post, Wow!
We are all trying to make this a better industry and we are not each others enemy's. This Industry should be above that and I say it is.
It will be above that, especially when people stop spinning things into something that it isn't and they stop trying to make people look bad like you are trying to do here with Russ. Russ does not need anyone to defend him. I just feel like stepping in here because it is the right thing to do. You John, a police officer or former should be above this kind of spinning and twisting of the facts but I guess I am wrong, you really disappoint me and let me down with this post. I thought you would be above the things you did here. What a shame!