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You know I hope the UAMC does answer those questions next week sometime. I remember Jeff saying to me that if they answer all 26 questions there will always be more....and he is right. But as long as The UAMCC stays honest and true then they have nothing to hide.
160 members and lets say 150 are contractors and 10 are vendor members then that would make the total 150 x $393 for contractors and 10 x $575 with the total of $58950 + $5750= $64700 Then along comes the Convention that had in the neighborhood of 150 people paying for booths and going to the Convention---Lets say just to make this easy but not exactly accurate thats another 150 x$200 and thats another $30,000. So now you have if nothing was spent $94,700. So now you have to figure the Convention probably cost the $30,000 if not more but lets stick with that. This brings us right back to the original $64,700.
Now the questions again towards Carlos are these.
27-Did you let some vendors have free memberships over other Vendors who spent there hard earned money to be members? If so how many Vendors were given free rides and what was the reason for this.
28- I'm betting that most UAMCC members don't know this but since the original TT members get a free 5 yr membership who else is getting a free membership and how did you come to the agreement that the TT members get this tremendous pass with the UAMCC?? Is there a record of this showing who was involved in this decision and were the rest of the UAMCC members notified of this??
29- Pay close to this one....Was there any member that may have won a prize who actually was a distributer of the prize he won??
30--When is the membership going to see your contract and who authorized you to have this contract with no outsiders given a chance to put in a bid on this??
There is more I can ask but thats it for now. The sooner they answer the sooner we can all move on.
A quick note about me. I know some of the UAMCC members are hurt by me asking questions because they want with all there might to believe in the ED and I can understand that. They could even blindly believe in him because of the great start he HAD with this org.
But when he embarrasses me and my wife like the way he did in Orlando then now I look at it like he dragged my family in this and when that happens there is no holds barred. SO if he thinks I was wrong about dragging in his family member here he can think that. I as a past member and the current members have a right to know how his family member was paid when my wife and many other wifes volunteered. If the ED paid his family member and it was done in fairness then thats OK in my book. But remember he did embarrass me with my wife and that shows ZERO class and like my friends and especially my family I defend them with all I have and I don't care if others like it or not.
Jeff says I asked for an apology....All I asked was for them to do something instead of brushing me and Rob under the Carpet and at least with me its not going to happen.
Rob is a big boy and he can take care of himself and yes he is still way pissed and its going to take awhile for him to get past that but as for me I will keep firing back with legitimate questions and none of my questions are just made up to keep the ED running.
There put up to make the UAMCC answer them and for them to show there true colors and hopefully for there sake there colors are true.
For the supporters I have now and to also my friends in the UAMCC this is a good time for some truths to come out so we can all move on.
IF the UAMCC takes the stance and hide and just hope they can get membership without revealing the truths then I will keep doing what I do since they decided to not offer any resolutions for me and my good friend Rob.
Like I told them in numerous PM's me and Rob will not be made to be the problems with them when we did nothing wrong. If the ED thinks we were wrong with something let him state it somewhere which I'm guessing he hasn't because he to doesn't know what we did wrong except for not following him blindly and that should never happen as I see it is happening now with some of the UAMCC members.
So All if and when the UAMCC takes a stance instead of hiding we all will review there answers on a public forum and if the consensus is that the UAMCC has finally done the right thing then we should let it go and move on.
If they don't tell the truth such as what the story is with there not for profit status and how there going about getting members then maybe the IRS investigation unit needs to be notified because its free of charge for this to happen and as of right now NO ONE and I mean that wants to go that far. So lets wait and see if the ED wants to tell us the truth about why he got into this org business in the first place along with those questions.
160 members and lets say 150 are contractors and 10 are vendor members then that would make the total 150 x $393 for contractors and 10 x $575 with the total of $58950 + $5750= $64700 Then along comes the Convention that had in the neighborhood of 150 people paying for booths and going to the Convention---Lets say just to make this easy but not exactly accurate thats another 150 x$200 and thats another $30,000. So now you have if nothing was spent $94,700. So now you have to figure the Convention probably cost the $30,000 if not more but lets stick with that. This brings us right back to the original $64,700.
Now the questions again towards Carlos are these.
27-Did you let some vendors have free memberships over other Vendors who spent there hard earned money to be members? If so how many Vendors were given free rides and what was the reason for this.
28- I'm betting that most UAMCC members don't know this but since the original TT members get a free 5 yr membership who else is getting a free membership and how did you come to the agreement that the TT members get this tremendous pass with the UAMCC?? Is there a record of this showing who was involved in this decision and were the rest of the UAMCC members notified of this??
29- Pay close to this one....Was there any member that may have won a prize who actually was a distributer of the prize he won??
30--When is the membership going to see your contract and who authorized you to have this contract with no outsiders given a chance to put in a bid on this??
There is more I can ask but thats it for now. The sooner they answer the sooner we can all move on.
A quick note about me. I know some of the UAMCC members are hurt by me asking questions because they want with all there might to believe in the ED and I can understand that. They could even blindly believe in him because of the great start he HAD with this org.
But when he embarrasses me and my wife like the way he did in Orlando then now I look at it like he dragged my family in this and when that happens there is no holds barred. SO if he thinks I was wrong about dragging in his family member here he can think that. I as a past member and the current members have a right to know how his family member was paid when my wife and many other wifes volunteered. If the ED paid his family member and it was done in fairness then thats OK in my book. But remember he did embarrass me with my wife and that shows ZERO class and like my friends and especially my family I defend them with all I have and I don't care if others like it or not.
Jeff says I asked for an apology....All I asked was for them to do something instead of brushing me and Rob under the Carpet and at least with me its not going to happen.
Rob is a big boy and he can take care of himself and yes he is still way pissed and its going to take awhile for him to get past that but as for me I will keep firing back with legitimate questions and none of my questions are just made up to keep the ED running.
There put up to make the UAMCC answer them and for them to show there true colors and hopefully for there sake there colors are true.
For the supporters I have now and to also my friends in the UAMCC this is a good time for some truths to come out so we can all move on.
IF the UAMCC takes the stance and hide and just hope they can get membership without revealing the truths then I will keep doing what I do since they decided to not offer any resolutions for me and my good friend Rob.
Like I told them in numerous PM's me and Rob will not be made to be the problems with them when we did nothing wrong. If the ED thinks we were wrong with something let him state it somewhere which I'm guessing he hasn't because he to doesn't know what we did wrong except for not following him blindly and that should never happen as I see it is happening now with some of the UAMCC members.
So All if and when the UAMCC takes a stance instead of hiding we all will review there answers on a public forum and if the consensus is that the UAMCC has finally done the right thing then we should let it go and move on.
If they don't tell the truth such as what the story is with there not for profit status and how there going about getting members then maybe the IRS investigation unit needs to be notified because its free of charge for this to happen and as of right now NO ONE and I mean that wants to go that far. So lets wait and see if the ED wants to tell us the truth about why he got into this org business in the first place along with those questions.