Clamps,duct tape,cleaners???

Does anybody have a shortcut or any better Ideas to hang tarp on hoods other than cleaning the areas all away around the hood to allow the tape to stick. I seem to spend so much time on setup that its taking so long to do even the small jobs, under hoods that have no back splash to tuck under and shim. Thanks Mikey. PS is 4mil to heavy?

I use 1.5 mil and have no problems and I use tape as well. I am considering using wood strips however they are hard to find on the West Coast as per my HD.

David

I use 2 mil and you have asked the million-dollar question, if you have no place to tuck the plastic it can be a problem.
The options I usually take is to cover the equipment and let it hit the floor, or if cleanup will be problem you can usually clamp the plastic to the lip under the filters and do most of the cleaning which leaves some handwork but gets the job done. You do use clamps don't you? I almost never need tape. Home depot sells clamps for buck a piece. Set up usually only takes 10 or 15 minutes at most.

Yes I use plenty of clamps, and have never used them to attach the tarp to the hood. I think that I might try it but have a problem with the thought of water and grease on the floor cleanup, Yuck!
I worry about the drip rails(holes) on each side going directley to the floor. You know that that 4mil plastic is very hard to work with but as a newbe I have to use it until I feel more confortable with my wand! dont want no accedents if you know what I mean. well I only have a couple more rolls left and Ill start going lighter. Thanks again all of you guys and or gals. Mikey

Hey Mikey,

I too struggle with setup time. It seems to take 1 to 1-1/2 hours just to prep, and that includes draping the plastic. I seriously thing I will try more clamps and magnets in lieu of TAPE!

Also, I think I will try setting my water recovery container on the appliances instead of the floor, so I can reach inside the plenum area easier.

Maybe, all this will decrease my job time, currently 5 to 6 hours per job for a one man operation. Granted, I'm still new in the profession.

Hayden

We use 12 x 100 3 mil. plastic, clamps, HVAC tape, Duct tape, rags, 1 x 2 fir strips and 30 gal. rectangle tubs on wheels
Our clean up is a minimal

we use tape at the front outside of the hood most of times and the HVAC tape will stick to just about anything and holds fast

mikey where do you use the clamps? what do you do just use the clamps to hold the plastic to the tubs? we use clamps on the hood to hold the plastic as well as wedging rags between the plastic and the back of the hood

we always cover the equipment with plastic as well as anything that might get nasty.

no 4 mil is not to thick but is a bit harder to manage

David ,
we use fir strips you can also cut down a 2x4 into 1 by strips H.D. has that 1 mil stretch tech plastic but I dont like it because it stretches too much

Mikey whats wrong with the wand?
if your ripping the plastic with the spray pattern use a bigger tip ie a 6 or bigger and a wider angle tip ie a 40 deg. if you use the chemical properley you can almost use the black 60deg chemial tip

go buy the type of plastic you want and use the heavier mil to cover up equipment you can never use to much plastic I'd rather take an extra 10 15 min to prep if its gonna save 30 or 40 min in squeeging and clean up

Hayden
how do you plan on moving the tub off of the eguipment when its full of water? even 20 gal of water is heavy about 160 lbs pls the tub to much risk of spillage thats why w like the 12 foot wide plastic... use a longer wand to reach up to the plenum

magnets I dont think they hold to stainless do they? I think they hold on galvinized

2 people are faster than one, we can prep any hood in under 30 minutes plus 2 people are safer than one you cant call for help if your laying on the ground unconcious

on our normal jobs we can do 2 to 3 jobs in an evening
now we do have jobs that will take 2 and 3 nights to do but most jobs can be done in 2 ta 2 1/2 hrs.
and yes experience is the best teacher, with repittion you will get faster but I REALLY BELIEVE THAT 2 PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN ONE, all of my crews are at least 2 or more depending on the job

I only clamp at the top of the barrel and duct the top 6-8 inches of the outside of the hood with the plastic, and use a safty tarp for grills and whatever, also have a bulkhead fitting with a 1 inch valve and drain through on the barrel. I use green 25' deg tip and most of the time 48 inch wand. works most of the time if I peel back the tarp far enough to get to the ends of the hood with minumal water spillage.

Hey Richard,

Thanks for the info.

I have a ball valve in my container to drain the water. I hook a hose to the end and drain to the sewer or grease trap.

I figure if I cover the appliances with plastic and boards, and then put my container on the appliances, then I can stand on my 6' ladder and the boards and then reach inside the hood easier.

I don't know? trying to cut down job time.

Hayden

Put 4 scrapers, 4 inch, in each back pocket, attach clamps to the hem of your shirt,(watch for clamping body parts) & start draping the plastic. Don't cover the appliances until the drape is done. Walking on plastic is slippery. Grab carboard boxes as you enter the kitchen. Flatten them and lay them on the appliances. We don't always cover the grill, charbroiler w/Plastic. The fryer always gets covered w/plastic. Set the trash can on the floor, use buckets to empty the trash can untill you can drag it to the sink, 2 people can then dump it.
Use 8 or 10 foot plastic to drape into the trash can. Don't stand on a ldder, very unsteady when opening the lance. Use a varitey of lances. Our main one is 48 inch, with a 96 used very seldom. Experiment w/different nozzle angles. i use a 15 degree nozzle, more power to knock off the grease, just back-up to rinse. WE can set up most jobs in 20 to 30 minutes. The roof guy hooks up water, ladders the roof, and pulls hose and chemical can to the roof. The inside guy makes sure the appliances are off, blows out exposed pilots and sets clamps. He then starts on the drape. the roof guy comes in and helps with the drape. He then goes to the roof, applies chemical. the inside guy starts the PW, and may help remove fans if needed. both guys hollar back & forth, keeping each other aware of any problems. When the roof guy is done, he has the inside guy shut joff the PW, AND

(SOMEONE hit hte worng key) The hose is lowered, and pulled inside. Chemical is applied to the plenum and the hood is cleaned. When done, the hoses are drained, rolled on the reel. By that time the inside guy is doing the hand work. If I'm
on the job, I do the fire system at this point.

Douglas Hicks
General Fire Equipment Co of Eastern Oregon, Inc

I don't think putting the container on the equipment is the answer, it sounds like more experience is needed, keep your head up, and keep working on it. I may be able to send you a pic of our plastic set up if you think that may help, let me know.

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Mike consider getting a flow accuated unloader and you wont have to worry about that blast of air and water ripping into your prep work. Also consider using a sump pump to drain your containment.

I would never recommend putting any water container on the equipment. I use a 30 gallon industrial container with a DOLLY under it to roll. Makes life so much easier. I have found the more help I have the better....we do a "normal" hood in about 3 hours...start to finish. One thing to make sure of is when operating on "fast food" roofs.......KNOW WHERE THE POWER LINES ARE!! So many of these small areas have low lines on the back of the store. Be careful. Good luck to you all.