Clean Water Act: Questions

WasherRick

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The sporadic enforcement of the CWA as it applies to our industry makes it difficult to comply. When I call PW companies in my area no one is familiar with the CWA or able to recover run off. Therefore, I would like to market my company as “green” or “CWA Compliant”. My client base is focused in the commercial sector and therefore, heavily concerned with risk management. However, I need to show that people are getting fined for this type of infraction in my area (Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi). I emailed the EPA, DEQ, and local law enforcement several weeks ago with no meaningful reply. How do you hear of infractions and fines in your area. How would you prove to the client that your services have a greater value which comes from reduced liability. As always thank you for your time. </SPAN>
 
If you show then that you have the equipment and can meet CWA requirements I don't think talking about fines will be necessary. Sell them on what you do. Talking poorly of your competition isn't a long term way to selling. People instinctively pull back from bad mouthing. I try to keep it positive. If you are putting extra time and investment in training and equipment impress them with it! Positive wins most of the time! Unless you're a politician! Lol
 
If you show then that you have the equipment and can meet CWA requirements I don't think talking about fines will be necessary. Sell them on what you do. Talking poorly of your competition isn't a long term way to selling. People instinctively pull back from bad mouthing. I try to keep it positive. If you are putting extra time and investment in training and equipment impress them with it! Positive wins most of the time! Unless you're a politician! Lol



Like Cobb said, "I think positive emotion trumps negative emotion every time"


That being said, my DOE has major violators listed on their website
 
The sporadic enforcement of the CWA as it applies to our industry makes it difficult to comply. When I call PW companies in my area no one is familiar with the CWA or able to recover run off. Therefore, I would like to market my company as “green” or “CWA Compliant”. My client base is focused in the commercial sector and therefore, heavily concerned with risk management. However, I need to show that people are getting fined for this type of infraction in my area (Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi). I emailed the EPA, DEQ, and local law enforcement several weeks ago with no meaningful reply. How do you hear of infractions and fines in your area. How would you prove to the client that your services have a greater value which comes from reduced liability. As always thank you for your time. </SPAN>

You need to read a bit more here how you can reduce liability with out using fear. I'll respond more on this by sat.


Ron Musgraves text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute
 
The sporadic enforcement of the CWA as it applies to our industry makes it difficult to comply. When I call PW companies in my area no one is familiar with the CWA or able to recover run off. Therefore, I would like to market my company as “green” or “CWA Compliant”. My client base is focused in the commercial sector and therefore, heavily concerned with risk management. However, I need to show that people are getting fined for this type of infraction in my area (Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi). I emailed the EPA, DEQ, and local law enforcement several weeks ago with no meaningful reply. How do you hear of infractions and fines in your area. How would you prove to the client that your services have a greater value which comes from reduced liability. As always thank you for your time.

Rick I truly believe that Closed Loop and other forms of wash water control can Increase a propertys owner liabilty much more than you realize.

The propertys should be built complient. The major issue is does your county or local officials hold these realestate investors to that.

The ones that are smart know they are responsible. They also know that if you mishandle there waste they are in trouble,
 
Like Cobb said, "I think positive emotion trumps negative emotion every time
You nailed it Nigel. I got more done thru more people once I eliminated the negative.. You'll be reading about it soon. And not on the net.. I'll let you know where to find it once it comes out.. Positive is the key. Crying about others no one wants to hear it anymore... They just want to hear about what you can do and those around you can do...
 
No more nothing down the drain but rain.

Understand the liability when you pick it up. You might be violating more laws pumping it back out? Might is the word.

Tony says you can flush it down the ms4, Scott uses a permit. Jim filters it and dumps in sanitary.

It's all so confusing but all so simple. No off property discharge.


Ron Musgraves text me for questions 480-522-5227 Pressure Washing Institute
 
If you show then that you have the equipment and can meet CWA requirements I don't think talking about fines will be necessary. Sell them on what you do. Talking poorly of your competition isn't a long term way to selling. People instinctively pull back from bad mouthing. I try to keep it positive. If you are putting extra time and investment in training and equipment impress them with it! Positive wins most of the time! Unless you're a politician! Lol

Well put Jared, don't use fear to sell it usually just makes them do nothing, sell the benefits of your work, the 'green' aspect of it.
 
When there are so many positives.. sell without negatives.
If there are too many negatives..
Relocate to where positives grow.
 
Thank you all for your replies. I completely agree that negativity is the wrong approach. What I was trying to get at was one of the property management companies I work with asked me about enforcement in our area. This came up while I was discussing how I (not my competition) define the scope of work. When I mentioned water recovery they suggested I provide them with documentation to support changing their current SOW to mandate water recovery as a means to reduce their liability. Therefore, if I can’t find evidence of enforcement action the only selling point is environmental responsibility, And no matter what anyone says the greater motivator is money. I don’t think that is spreading fear if it is part of the whole picture. </SPAN>
 
Thank you all for your replies. I completely agree that negativity is the wrong approach. What I was trying to get at was one of the property management companies I work with asked me about enforcement in our area. This came up while I was discussing how I (not my competition) define the scope of work. When I mentioned water recovery they suggested I provide them with documentation to support changing their current SOW to mandate water recovery as a means to reduce their liability. Therefore, if I can’t find evidence of enforcement action the only selling point is environmental responsibility, And no matter what anyone says the greater motivator is money. I don’t think that is spreading fear if it is part of the whole picture.

You are creating a situation for yourself that did not exist.

There is no enforcement in your area to worry about as of yet and I have never seen anyone either.
 
Those enforcement actions, as pretty much always, are against properties - correct?
 
How about just do not pollute ? Have you thought of that idea, never enter the MS4

Thank you all for your replies. I completely agree that negativity is the wrong approach. What I was trying to get at was one of the property management companies I work with asked me about enforcement in our area. This came up while I was discussing how I (not my competition) define the scope of work. When I mentioned water recovery they suggested I provide them with documentation to support changing their current SOW to mandate water recovery as a means to reduce their liability. Therefore, if I can’t find evidence of enforcement action the only selling point is environmental responsibility, And no matter what anyone says the greater motivator is money. I don’t think that is spreading fear if it is part of the whole picture.
 
Rick there is enforcement in your area, but they usually go after the "big fish"

your right BUT they are not regulating pressure washing, they mostly look out for industries polluting not the guy washing a drive thru at 2am

we are in Louisiana 4 months out of the year and NEVER have any issues, however we are doing it right.
 
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