New Product for Woodies...

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http://www.biopreserve.com/index.aspx

A buddy saw this on HGTV, and now his wife and her friends believe that it is the second coming. I'm not as convinced, but haven't seen the whole site yet.

I have read the MSDS, and it doesn't look good to me. Looks like a handy way to laminate a deck in plastic while simultaneously feeding microbes and fungi.

What's next, coaty decky in chinee glease?
 
Scott,

I am aware of many of these "new" products that are becoming more popular. There are many with soy and vegetable oils blends out there. To me it is amusing to see the debates on these sites about the "future" of wood and the coatings. In all honesty at the Forest Products Laboratory's Joint Coatings Committee we have been discussing nanotechnology for a few years. Remember you heard it here on PWI, the future of the wood coatings is in "nanotechnolgy" which you can do a goole search and get a lot of information on. Flood has put out the first product that I am aware of using this technology. This technology will apply to all types of wood.
 
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Nanotech...

The buzzword of the future. All chemistry is nanotechnology, it seems, since it works at the molecular and atomic levels.

Everett, I'm more interested to hear what you think about those heading this direction, both in new products, and in application. What are your opinions, and why do you hold them?

I admit I'm not through reading the site, and haven't spoken with anybody there, but it just sounds like another vegetable oil, and polystyrene to petrify a deck with.

No tints, no serious discussion about what it does better in, on, or for, the wood; nothing new except the recipe. It looks to me like there is a risk that people hear, "soy" and assume it must be a "good product". Then add the words, "recycled polystyrene" and the homeowners feel like Captain Planet saving the world.

Are you saying that Flood is selling a similar product? Or are you saying that the techniques for manufacturing the two products are similar? I get that VOC compliance is important, but aside from that I see no real advantage to this product. Am I missing something? I'm no woodie, and your opinion in this field carries a great deal of weight, so please clear a few questions up for me:

I'm not clear what technology you say will apply to all wood from now on, that hasn't before. When I referred earlier to the future being now, I was being facetious: I was trying to imply that this doesn't seem a lot different than linseed, or tung oil products, in that for thousands of years humans have used oils and fats to coat and "treat" wood against moisture. By the same token, applying one type of plastic or another doesnt seem so new either.

After all, neither composite lumber substitutes (Wood and polymers combined) nor akrylic stains represent new technology. What is new here that I don't see.

I guess if you think this is actually the wave of the future, and a good type of product, I'd be interested in starting to use it sooner rather than later.
 
On May 10th & 11th of 2005 at the Forest Products Laboratory there was as unbelievable presentation on how nanotechnology will impact the Forest Products Industry.

In this presentation nanoscience, nanoscale, and nanotechnology were explored in depth. "Nanoscale" is a relatively new scale where materials properties, such as melting point and electric conductivity, differ significantly from the same properties in bulk. "Nanoscience" seeks to understand these new properties.
"Nanotechnology" seeks to develop materials and structures that exhibit novel and significantly improved, physical, chemical, and tribiological properties and functions due to their nanoscale size. The goal being to integrate nanoscale components into macroscopic scale objects and devices for real-world uses.

Some sites that were given at the time were:

www.nanotechforest.org
www.fpl.fs.fed.us
www.nano.gov
www.tappi.org

What this means is that we are looking at coating technology that will penetrate harder species of woods as well as making longer lasting and more durable coatings. This technology is expected to also create more improved composite material.

There is also a book out called "Nanotechnology for the Forest Products Industry, Vision Technology Roadmap", which I believe maybe authored by Ted Wegner.

In regards to current coatings I will leave you with this, the "Leading Expert" in this country who runs the Forest Products Laboratory uses a mineral oil based product that he makes up himself for his own deck! I'll leave the debating to others.
 
Scott,

While I have never used this particular product I did research the site a bit. Folks will often lump a "wood repellant" with a "wood preservative" together when in fact these are two different things. To be labeled a "wood preservative" it must contain a mildewcide, a repellant does not. In looking at the website the company calls the product a repellant yet does mention it further down the page that it resists mildew. I personally do not agree with the two seperate statements and find them contradictory. The product may in fact perform well, I do not know that though. This is a very quickly changing environment that we are working in. The past few years have been difficult in the maintenance end of our business for a couple of reasons. One is the change in VOC compliance and the other is rapidly advancing technology. These two together have caused many products that were previously used to be a different product when time for maintenance.
 
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