How do I do a cooler with reclaim?

Josh_Cronin

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The cooler is in a refridgerated wherehouse, it is 33 degrees and we are having problems with the reclaim. The reclaim hose is freezing. Also the water is turning to slush. Has anyone done anything like this or have an idea?

We do the walls and floors with a wand. It is basically a rinse out 1 a month.

Thanks guys and girls!
 
Is it just a cooler with no food processing facility (open items in it) Aslo is it a aluminum sided cooler or steel insulated with concrete floor. Also are you using a hotwater machine
 
Might want to try mixing alcohol with your wash water.
 
Is it this cold in there, cold enough to turn your brain into mush?
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ANY chem that you use int he facility, is of your own discourse, it is not the responsibility of the facility to approve your chems.

Using alcohol in the freezer is a definite no no with out air quality management and testing.

The best way to get cleared with the chems are to have an industrial hygienist approve your methodology.



We work in -20 and dont have reclaim freezing up, but if we let off the gun for too long the hp hose will freeze.

Turn your machine down in rpms and turn the heat up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkxoFPSJ4Gs
 
Ya no chemicals alowed except food grade bleach. It has to be a water temp issue. What do you recomed swrest?

Thanks all, once again PWI to the rescue!

I don't think I know what food grade bleach is, maybe it is meant to be .0001% by volume @10.5%. with an additive like sodium laureyl suflate you can foam the bleach on to the surface for a bit of dwell time and then get yourself a FREE RINSE AGENT, wit out that the SLS will adhear to metal and become a nightmare to get back off with out a haze.

And remember that if there is any yeast in the location that you will be washing, whether it is in a frozen state or not, that you will not want to use bleach period. There are other sanitizing solutions that are just as effective.

Get yourself a 302 degree thermostat, turn the RPMS down or back off the unloader a bit so that you can achieve a higher temp. Worst case scenario add some delimone @ 1 part per 300, use food grade from Florida chemical supply, make sure to get an emulsifier with it. Put air inlets on your intake side of your vac hose, addind the air will atomize the solution and make it move through the hose faster and ideally to a warmer area. Or run a second high temp hose to the vac inlet where you are working, keep temp high and introduce the water at the inlet.

NO GLYCOL - NO AMMONIA - NO ALCOHOL - NO SALT...maybe:rap:

Wont give away all secrets but read this, and then read between the lines:wacko:

Bleaches Are Not Equal
Somewhere a myth got started that “bleach is bleach” and any bleach would do. Advertising blurred the difference intentionally. Government memos do not specify the food grade varieties for contact with drinking water. It would justify stopping at the corner store for a bottle of bleach—to fix a water pipe, to pour down a well, to wash tables in a restaurant, to rinse dishes or mixers in a drug manufacturing plant. Before there were many kinds of bleach on the market, perhaps such a myth did little harm. Now that many kinds of bleaches are on the market, it does a great deal of harm. The new bleaches arriving in the supermarkets in the past few decades have changed considerably. Some have “whiteners and brighteners” added, which implies “dyes and metals”. The words “ultra”, or “super”, or “regular” make no difference. Many have other additives. It was already known generations ago that adding “bluing” to your laundry made it appear “whiter”. Old-fashioned bluing was a cobalt compound and methylene blue, a heavy metal and a dye. Now laundry bleaches have a huge assortment of dyes, and the heavy metals include barium, lead, lanthanum, nickel, cadmium, chromium, cobalt, ruthenium, and yttrium, for example. There is no set recipe for these, suggesting they are some other industry’s wastewater. They were never meant to be drunk, of course, only applied to clothing and bathrooms.

The Spectrometer® typically finds about 20 heavy metals in a sample of popular bleach. All have many azo dyes meant for cloth and paper, not food. Most have asbestos and shocking solvents. Shocking, because their PCBs, malonic acid, benzene and isopropyl alcohol are well known to contribute to cancer. Shocking to have motor oil and even wheel bearing grease and a high level of radioactivity. Compare this to the legally designated, NSF grade bleach meant for drinking water. Just which brand of bleach is being used can easily be discerned. Bleach varieties only resonate with themselves using the Syncrometer®. So if you test water samples for the presence of local supermarket varieties of bleach, you can tell which one you are inadvertently drinking. You can also find which variety is used in your water filter or softener and on the produce in your supermarket.
<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>
Through a simple-minded error of using laundry bleach instead of NSF grade bleach,
your water can receive the stamp of cancer.​
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Modern bleaches contain extremely toxic dyes. Being used for laundry, we could not expect these to be safe, edible dyes. The Syncrometer® detects those already banned 50 years ago in food. Some are legally allowed. The Syncrometer® always finds Fast Garnet, Fast Green, Fast Red, Fast Red Violet, Fast Blue, Dimethylaminoazobenzene (DAB, or butter yellow), Sudan Black, in fact.
 
Not sure if this would work but you could try making a container with some rock salt that the water has to pass through. This should melt the slush back into water for you.
 
salt through a heater coil ??
sounds like a problem..
..like major corrosion.

I say turn up the heat..
I'm with Joe !
 
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Cold enough to turn your brain into mush?
attachment.php




ANY chem that you use int he facility, is of your own discourse, it is not the responsibility of the facility to approve your chems.

Using alcohol in the freezer is a definite no no with out air quality management and testing.

The best way to get cleared with the chems are to have an industrial hygienist approve your methodology.



We work in -20 and dont have reclaim freezing up, but if we let off the gun for too long the hp hose will freeze.

Turn your machine down in rpms and turn the heat up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkxoFPSJ4Gs

I don't think I know what food grade bleach is, maybe it is meant to be .0001% by volume @10.5%. with an additive like sodium laureyl suflate you can foam the bleach on to the surface for a bit of dwell time and then get yourself a FREE RINSE AGENT, wit out that the SLS will adhear to metal and become a nightmare to get back off with out a haze.

And remember that if there is any yeast in the location that you will be washing, whether it is in a frozen state or not, that you will not want to use bleach period. There are other sanitizing solutions that are just as effective.

Get yourself a 302 degree thermostat, turn the RPMS down or back off the unloader a bit so that you can achieve a higher temp. Worst case scenario add some delimone @ 1 part per 300, use food grade from Florida chemical supply, make sure to get an emulsifier with it. Put air inlets on your intake side of your vac hose, addind the air will atomize the solution and make it move through the hose faster and ideally to a warmer area. Or run a second high temp hose to the vac inlet where you are working, keep temp high and introduce the water at the inlet.

NO GLYCOL - NO AMMONIA - NO ALCOHOL - NO SALT...maybe:rap:

Wont give away all secrets but read this, and then read between the lines:wacko:

Bleaches Are Not Equal
Somewhere a myth got started that “bleach is bleach” and any bleach would do. Advertising blurred the difference intentionally. Government memos do not specify the food grade varieties for contact with drinking water. It would justify stopping at the corner store for a bottle of bleach—to fix a water pipe, to pour down a well, to wash tables in a restaurant, to rinse dishes or mixers in a drug manufacturing plant. Before there were many kinds of bleach on the market, perhaps such a myth did little harm. Now that many kinds of bleaches are on the market, it does a great deal of harm. The new bleaches arriving in the supermarkets in the past few decades have changed considerably. Some have “whiteners and brighteners” added, which implies “dyes and metals”. The words “ultra”, or “super”, or “regular” make no difference. Many have other additives. It was already known generations ago that adding “bluing” to your laundry made it appear “whiter”. Old-fashioned bluing was a cobalt compound and methylene blue, a heavy metal and a dye. Now laundry bleaches have a huge assortment of dyes, and the heavy metals include barium, lead, lanthanum, nickel, cadmium, chromium, cobalt, ruthenium, and yttrium, for example. There is no set recipe for these, suggesting they are some other industry’s wastewater. They were never meant to be drunk, of course, only applied to clothing and bathrooms.

The Spectrometer® typically finds about 20 heavy metals in a sample of popular bleach. All have many azo dyes meant for cloth and paper, not food. Most have asbestos and shocking solvents. Shocking, because their PCBs, malonic acid, benzene and isopropyl alcohol are well known to contribute to cancer. Shocking to have motor oil and even wheel bearing grease and a high level of radioactivity. Compare this to the legally designated, NSF grade bleach meant for drinking water. Just which brand of bleach is being used can easily be discerned. Bleach varieties only resonate with themselves using the Syncrometer®. So if you test water samples for the presence of local supermarket varieties of bleach, you can tell which one you are inadvertently drinking. You can also find which variety is used in your water filter or softener and on the produce in your supermarket.


<TABLE border=1><TBODY><TR><TD>Through a simple-minded error of using laundry bleach instead of NSF grade bleach,
your water can receive the stamp of cancer.​




</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>​
Modern bleaches contain extremely toxic dyes. Being used for laundry, we could not expect these to be safe, edible dyes. The Syncrometer® detects those already banned 50 years ago in food. Some are legally allowed. The Syncrometer® always finds Fast Garnet, Fast Green, Fast Red, Fast Red Violet, Fast Blue, Dimethylaminoazobenzene (DAB, or butter yellow), Sudan Black, in fact.

Just did another -20 freezer and no freezing up, keep that water moving and it will treat ya good.
 
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