Small reclaim system for sale

Johnson said:
That's basically what a flocculating agent is - absorbent powder
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It separates water from contaminants.

I see Jim is monitoring our conversation here and is now over on another board showing his ignorance regarding filtration again.

He is claiming that DE will explode in a trailer environment due to vibration etc. He claims no manufacturer would make a mobile filter using DE.

First he must be unaware that DE is almost pure silicate from the fossilized remains of insects.

Second I guess he needs to contact these people and tell them they need to shut down.

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So you guys all know, a DE filter is a "final" or "polishing" filter that allows you to reuse the water. It deals with hydrocarbons and heavy metals on a much finer scale than most filters leaving you with water you may be able to reuse and might quite possibly be released into the storm drain if it tests clean enough and is allowed in your area.

I know in my area some industries are frequently given permission to discharge into the storm drain if filtration does an adequate job of cleaning the discharge.

DE is too fine to be used as your "only" filter. You have to use two or three other forms of filtration inline to deal with debris, heavy oils and other solids first.




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Apparently DE is even better than I thought. I know when I used it in my system it worked great. Even at 5 microns I still had to treat the cleaned water with chlorine to eliminate the smell. I wonder if the clear water coming out of here at 1/2 micron still has a smell?

 
Johnson said:
Not sure Tony but isn't there a filter that could eliminate the smell? Carbon filter maybe?
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I am sure it would help. Chlorine was just the most cost effective solution for what I was doing cleaning with ultrasonics.

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DE filters are really effective at filtering oils. Carbon filters are even better.
 
Jim also plays up the Ozone he uses too. All that's for is keeping odor bacteria down when going closed loop. An oilfield shop I worked a used a closed loop water recycling system for a while. I was in charge of taking care of it for about 6 months. All it basically consisted of was a big pool filter, some big tanks, a coalcent (sp?), and a bunch of other useless crap. The reclaim I'm planning to use is just a Nikro vac pumped through a bag filter then 2 different micron filters. I do have a larger recycling unit, but honestly, I don't see the need. I've dealt with the EPA as far as oilfield shops are concerned. Let me just say, I'm AMAZED at what's allowed by the POWTS/EPA, as compared to what I've seen touted on some of these boards concerning pressure washing a damn sidewalk. I still work oilfield and still have to deal with EPA regulations, honestly, conforming isn't all that difficult or expensive in any area.
 
Great post Marty!

There are many out there that don't want this kind of information out in the public as they want to sell over-priced and non-needed reclaim equipment when simple things work great in most cases and then there are those that use scare tactics to try to manipulate the property owners, property managers and try to scare away the competition.

There are many ways to do the right thing and most don't cost a lot of money.
 
Osoto said:
Jim also plays up the Ozone he uses too. All that's for is keeping odor bacteria down when going closed loop. An oilfield shop I worked a used a closed loop water recycling system for a while. I was in charge of taking care of it for about 6 months. All it basically consisted of was a big pool filter, some big tanks, a coalcent (sp?), and a bunch of other useless crap. The reclaim I'm planning to use is just a Nikro vac pumped through a bag filter then 2 different micron filters. I do have a larger recycling unit, but honestly, I don't see the need. I've dealt with the EPA as far as oilfield shops are concerned. Let me just say, I'm AMAZED at what's allowed by the POWTS/EPA, as compared to what I've seen touted on some of these boards concerning pressure washing a damn sidewalk. I still work oilfield and still have to deal with EPA regulations, honestly, conforming isn't all that difficult or expensive in any area.
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I would be curious to know how that is physically possible.

Even at high powered stationary plants ozone requires 10-30 minutes contract with the water to be effective.

At Jim's claimed 80 gpm That's 2400 gallons every 30 minutes.

I don't recall seeing a 2400 gallon tank on Jim's trailer.

Not to mention the energy required to run an ozone generator that could operate at that speed.

In 2004-5 we used UV to sterilize filters prior to reinstalling them. It sounded great on paper but was completely ineffective in the field.

Customers loved it. It was a great selling tool.

After testing for a year we determined that the amount of time needed for the filters to be in contact with the UV made its use completely out of the question.

We had to go back to our customers and tell them it was voodoo science in a mobile application like ours and we were discontinuing it.

Chlorine is and was the most economical method for high flow, small footprint operations.

Further, I'd like to understand why ozone treatment would even be a consideration for water that is going into the sewage treatment plant anyway.
 
Lenny Schrecengost said:
The main questions is "Does anyone want to buy this equipment?"
This is no way near as big as what Jim has or claims to have.
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Sorry for the hijack Lenny.

This is a great system for the money. Every power washer should have something like this for jobs where reclaim is needed.

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