Some months ago, I explained that this was happening....

Great post Tony!

What amazes me is that when in Houston, the issue of hot water was brought up and they were told by "someone", would not mention any names but were told that the hot water would kill marine life.

It is amazing how common sense eludes most of the city officials there, the epa people and people enforcing the rules and regulations they setup as they had no clue that water cools down as it flows back down to ambient, hot water will not stay hot for miles or tens of miles or further to reach marine life.

Hot water on a hot surface will eventually cool down and stay about the temperature that the concrete is so if you are using 200 degree water and the concrete is 90 degrees, the concrete will not heat the water hotter, it will help cool the water down to about 90 degrees and the concrete will almost keep it there as far as it travels but it will cool a little bit more, not get hotter as the morons out there want you to believe and it will not stay 200 degrees all the way to the lakes, rivers, bays or ocean to kill marine life.

Even if it was insulated all the way there, once it hits the water, the ocean water will start to cool it down quickly so if there was any marine life right there as the insulated hot water reaches the ocean water, the marine life might be harmed but that is through an insulated pipe, not running down sidewalks and gutters cooling down quickly as it flows.

One of these days I will make a video showing this so it will shut up all the dumbasses that believe the nonsense that is being spread around by people that don't have a clue or have ulterior motives to hurt or harm or manipulate the industry.

It is a shame that the mindless drones will keep repeating the nonsense over and over until they think it is gospel but when the proof is staring them in the face, they just cannot understand how it can be true when the so-called "leaders" of the industry, the industry experts and other people with self-naming tiles say this or that and it is just true because they say so without anyone looking into it or checking it out for themselves.
 
Tony Shelton said:
My computer messed up and I couldn't finish my post.

We need to work towards a common goal of keeping the environment around us clean while doing what is economically feasible to keep water sources clean using Best management practices.....and common sense.

I am not representing anyone here. I clean condenser coils and air filters. The proposed BMP's have little to no effect on my business whatsoever. My son, Chris, does clean concrete. If the current trend towards attacking plaza cleaning contractors as "polluters" continues, I will welcome him into my realm and we will avoid all this micromanagement. In other words, I really don't have a dog in this fight. Unless that dog is the desire to keep honest and hard working contractors in business.

I am not speaking for any org or forum or anyone else other than myself. If anyone wishes to join me in my quest to keep our industry thriving I welcome any allies.

Thank you.
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I join you Tony, let me know what I can do to help. And Thank You for for what you are doing. It is greatly appreciated.

The enforcement, at least here in Houston, is not done for revenue stream. It is done because, IMO, They have bought into the "nothing but rain down the drain" lingo and the fact that in the last 15 years there has been NO one from our industry to help educate them what reasonable, rational, and logical environmental cleaning can be and look like...., our own industry has been it's worst enemy here, and again I say, we shot ourselves in the foot, over and over again.

That has been slowly changing over the last couple years now, though.
 
You and Ron are doing a great job there in Houston Doug, keep up the good work!

There has been a lot of smoke being blown around there but a lot of us know the truth and how you and Ron are helping a lot to change things for the better over there.
 
I know that revenue generation is not the goal of most. At least if it is, they are in for a rude awakening when they try to collect from most powerwashers. You can't get blood out of a turnip. The CWA was never meant for the minute sources of runoff such as ours. It was meant for large corporations and municipalities that routinely dumped hazardous waste into the water sources without any regard. Now that those sources are effectively cleaned up, they are turning their sights onto smaller and smaller insignificant sources. Why? Maybe to justify their existence. Ron Paul proposed doing away with the EPA since they have accomplished their mission and now spend their time looking for more and more people and cities to punish for whatever "crimes" they can come up with.

The cities have been ordered to come up with plans that keep the water clean by using BMP's to the greatest extent "practicable". Practicable means "capable of being done" or "feasible".

If the rules cause businesses to forego cleaning till dangerous conditions exist, the BMP is NOT "practicable".

Thank you for your support Doug. I have spent the past three or four years researching this in an effort to keep the reigns of government off one of the few industries left in the United States where a man with a strong back and a strong mind can pick up his tools and start making a living for his family if he's willing to do it honestly and correctly.

Almost daily the larger contractors and the distributors who feed on them are working tirelessly to put you out of business, Doug. They want more and more of the pie and with the pathetic service they offer at such levels the only way to ensure they get more of the pie is to put you out of business by helping to make more rules and then calling the authorities who they are buddies with to have them lean on you till you quit. Just like that jerk in Colorado is doing. A few of us need to put these guys on notice the old fashioned way.

But one or two of us can't do it alone. And, we can't do it if we want to continue to be "buddies" with the very contractors who's sole goal is to put us out of business. Handshake in the front, knife in the back. What's so funny about all this is most of these guys are stabbing you in the back with the right hand while shaking hands with the left then telling you guys' it's Ron who is stabbing you. Like the kid tapping you on the shoulder, then turning the other way and blaming it on someone else. How long are contractors going to fall for that before they wise up?
 
Not all large contractors want to put people out of business. Some of us prefer to get fat and not get slaughtered.
 
You know who they are Scott. We need guys like you who rely on honorable work ethics rather then the government to keep them in business.

Unfortunately most of them don't have the time or the desire to help the smaller guys.

That is why Ron is such an anomaly to most. They can't understand unselfishness and would rather fabricate conspiracy theories or pay for a patsy to investigate Ron rather than face the fact that he is just helping.

Thank you Scott for hanging with us after making the big time.
 
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