Clip on wash bar?

M-CLEAN UK

M-CLEAN UK

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On my works we clean a lot of Tarmac car parks, for the supermarkets. The last one we cleaned was 15000 SQM. This takes a lot of man hours and is an expensive way of doing it.

I have asked a supplier who is working on my waste water recovery system to look at making a spray bar, at approximately 5 feet 8 inches to clip on the front of vehicles.

Preferably I would like turbo nozzles and have it housed in such a way that the waste water could be recovered. I realise the bar pressure limitations of the set up and this would be for a proper wash rather than a rinse down.

Is it possible to create something, has anyone done this, I don't want something feeble that wets down but as mentioned something that will allow me to drive around large areas pressure washing - maybe I will need to use fan nozzles????????

Rob :wink2:
 
Fan nozzles and a huge pump and water supply. Pretty straight forward that part, like a spray broom. Maybe a couple of 2-foot surface cleaners at lower pressure.
 
We had contemplated fitting two rotaries to the front of the van but I would prefer a spray bar. What size pump would suit?

Rob
 
M-CLEAN UK said:
On my works we clean a lot of Tarmac car parks, for the supermarkets. The last one we cleaned was 15000 SQM. This takes a lot of man hours and is an expensive way of doing it.

I have asked a supplier who is working on my waste water recovery system to look at making a spray bar, at approximately 5 feet 8 inches to clip on the front of vehicles.

Preferably I would like turbo nozzles and have it housed in such a way that the waste water could be recovered. I realise the bar pressure limitations of the set up and this would be for a proper wash rather than a rinse down.

Is it possible to create something, has anyone done this, I don't want something feeble that wets down but as mentioned something that will allow me to drive around large areas pressure washing - maybe I will need to use fan nozzles????????

Rob :wink2:
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Hey Rob welcome aboard mate. I see you joined this bulletin board in Aug/11. Do they have any interesting bulletin boards in the UK that pertain to Powerwashing? I find it fascinating that we can communicate this far apart. Does your are still recognized "The Lord Mayor" and must be fun playing Machester in Soccer.. The NY Yankees of the soccer world or should I say the Yankees are the Machesters of baseball:) My team the NY Mets always find interesting ways to ummmm lose.

As to your question I'm not quite sure what your trying to do. There is a Cyclone 4500 if you research that on the Net is a mini vehicle that looks like a small truck that reclaims.. With mixed reviews. If you look on my website www.cleancounty.com you will see me on on my ride on Swabby Machine. I sold the whole reclaiming end of it a couple of years ago but the Swabby I use and like. One of the guys I know that has the Swabby did put a high power spray bar in the front where he can turn a lever and now it becomes like a push water broom. He said it's good for rinsing.. That wouldn't work for me because we go higher then the GPM's used in the Swabby for rinsing. The Swabby is purely for Powerwashing.

Explain a little further what you want to do with this spray bars again. You might be able to have a Squeegie system built into the truck if your trying to use spray bars to reclaim with.. Sounds to be not a good idea but then again I may be misunderstanding what it is your asking.
 
Thanks for the replies.

I have spoken to a manufacturer and they have said that the actual spray bar would not be an issue, if we can pump at 60 litres per minute (14 US gallons?) but it is the recovery of the water.

I know what I need to do with this and when I get the vacuum sorted for the recovery unit and then get the recovery unit in place I will start looking at this problem. As said water reuse is a brand new field over here and there are very few people doing it.

I have seen the ride on Cyclone type units - there is a Nilfisk Cyclone ride on but I would need to get it from A to B and am really trying to avoid towing it because of the restrictions to trading hours that this would cause.

Clean County - there is some great, we call it football, you lot call it soccer going on at the moment, with the end of the season coming up, just wished I had more time to watch it and get to see a couple of games.

Cheers

Rob
 
Rob,Did I give you the idea when you seen the low pressure bar on the front of our van?;-)
 
Lee

I have come all the way over the Atlantic and I bump into people I know:grin:

Are you stalking me:yes:???

No when I saw your spray bar i had already had discussions with a principal contractor to slash pricing on the large car park cleaning jobs and had been on here for some time. I picked up a couple of ideas on here that I felt could be put together and i am know getting a little frustrated with the people doing my reclaim set up, as I expected to have it by now.

Just to reiterate to everyone, over the pond mobile reclaim systems are not anywhere readily available and this has become a bespoke project, the company I am using do large scale static systems, we need this in a footprint of about 1.5 m2 - the set up is there but I haven't seen it yet.

The spray bar we have been debating for some time and I am sure it was from a road sweeper because I see so many on site/s but it will only work if I can recover the build up, so it is going to be reclaim system first and then worry about the clip on pressure washing bar.

Rob:grin:
 
Have you seen what Jerry from Sirocco has? He has some youtube videos of a reclaim deck that is like 2 of the 21" spray bars spinning so the cleaning path would be about 40" wide more or less and reclaims (you need a vacuum reclaim system for it to work) if not, he sells them also and has great products and great customer service as well.

If you wanted one wide spray bar with multiple nozzles, I am sure he can probably help you there also if that is really what you want.

I am not sure if you have really thought out the differences between one wide spray bar vs. 2 or 3 spinning spray bars but most of the people on the bbs sites use surface cleaners with spinning spray bars.

Having only 1 wide spray bar will be less expensive to build, operate and maintain but I don't know if you have to move slower due to the multiple nozzles to clean the same area or not, that would be interesting to find out.

There was a guy that posted here or on another site that built his own 40" wide spray bar with multiple nozzles and connected it to a riding mower to clean parking garages and his customers were very happy with the end result. Not sure what that thread is titled but it can be found here. I will try to find it later on tonite if I can.

Tell me your reasoning for the 1 large spray bar instead of multiple spray bars that spin with swivels, just curious to the design.
 
The spray bar will give you a compact cleaner but with the angle spray of the nozzles to get the coverage you will be reducing the flow per nozzle dramatically reducing the cleaning ability. If this is not really a major concern you can easily create a housing to contain the spray and use a squeegee type system to pickup the water as you move forward. I would recommend a system like the siroccos for pickup of the water. It may be a bit difficult but it can be shipped to the UK.
 
Hahaha, I come on here now and again lurking but never bothered to register until this week.

I wouldn't be popular on here mate if they look into how I clean roofs.

You sound like you're putting a lot of effort in to the recovery set up, you may just be tempting me. I've started building the 'American style rig' yesterday. 10 foot flat bed trailer and bought some chequer plate aluminium to cover. Just need to mount Lombardini engine and pump, burner, tank etc and there may be space to add in recovery equipment.
 
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