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Mostly the ones that have been around a while get tired of the BS and Drama and leave the boards. You will see many come and go and the ones that are still around check in from time to time but don't get involved anymore. Its about time for me to check out again and go away for a few years.
 
Chris drama is just that , something made up in your head without a name. Issues are talked about here directly. If other places it's called drama.


Ron Musgraves
www.uamcc.org
"Sidewalk cleaning"
 
I enjoy coming here because there is usually more drama , every once in awhile a good character assassination is taking place. Facebook sucks !
 
Diamond Jim said:
I enjoy coming here because there is usually more drama , every once in awhile a good character assassination is taking place. Facebook sucks !
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I find this Forum is a bit like the Shark tank- come prepared or risk being exposed and sent home

Weather your giving bad rehashed sales advice or cleaning methods that are untrue your going to get called out

I wouldn't really want it any other way
 
Yea Mike, I don't think I'd even waste my time responding to Jim. He's been exposed as an out and out liar as well since he clearly can't compete being honest. So, naturally he'll identify with and defend the other shit bags.
 
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Now calling me a liar based on what ? Giving the spray and pray guys a hard time ! Waiting for an act of god to finish your work ? Telling the truth in a humorous way at other people people expense ?I'm not defending anyone or anything . Just calling it the way I see and read . One thing is I'm not is a liar . In my whole life I've never been called a liar .I really don't get bent out of shape and find this pretty funny . I'm Just an industry expert in many areas with lots of credentials .So much so I can give people a hard time but make them think .I never called anyone a name and I stay out of the politics . I will defend methods and processes and call people out on it when I see stupid or incompetence . I can't be to bad Ron asked me to be a moderator here and have been asked to be on every other board out there .

I like coming here to watch the drama unfold . One person says there is drama here and look at the reaction , more drama ! Lol ! I'm not one of the followers ! I just have a lot of friends who know my funny wit . Please don't make me write anymore . It takes to long .

.What cleaning methods would be untrue ? The ones By ARMA ? Cleaning cedar roof shakes with bleach ? Getting a soft wash group to stop there cedar roof cleaning methods because the were destroying roofs ?

Ron , I would like to know where it could be pointed out I lied about anything and being a liar . That's pretty severe ! Forgetaboutit , I see it as a complement !
 
Jim done right a cedar roof can be cleaned using bleach. Also waiting for moss to fall of on its own without using pressure is a proven fact that it works and the moss does clean off with rain. There is less chance of injury and no chance for damage to be done to the roof with this method.
To each his own. I will choose the safest method to clean every time. If everet Abrams cleans cedar roofs with bleach then so will I.
 
Diamond Jim said:
Now calling me a liar based on what ? Giving the spray and pray guys a hard time ! Waiting for an act of god to finish your work ? Telling the truth in a humorous way at other people people expense ?I'm not defending anyone or anything . Just calling it the way I see and read . One thing is I'm not is a liar . In my whole life I've never been called a liar .I really don't get bent out of shape and find this pretty funny . I'm Just an industry expert in many areas with lots of credentials .So much so I can give people a hard time but make them think .I never called anyone a name and I stay out of the politics . I will defend methods and processes and call people out on it when I see stupid or incompetence . I can't be to bad Ron asked me to be a moderator here and have been asked to be on every other board out there .

I like coming here to watch the drama unfold . One person says there is drama here and look at the reaction , more drama ! Lol ! I'm not one of the followers ! I just have a lot of friends who know my funny wit . Please don't make me write anymore . It takes to long .

.What cleaning methods would be untrue ? The ones By ARMA ? Cleaning cedar roof shakes with bleach ? Getting a soft wash group to stop there cedar roof cleaning methods because the were destroying roofs ?

Ron , I would like to know where it could be pointed out I lied about anything and being a liar . That's pretty severe ! Forgetaboutit , I see it as a complement !
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Jim why is the industry messed up?

Why do you fight for the belief you have against others? Can we call your passion to protect you livelihood drama? Sure just like mine to protect anyone from those being lied to about reclaim and enviro laws.

James every Vetran I see carrying a stick but not really supporting the cause with anything other than there mouth is bs.

12 dollars a month isn't worth protecting your lively hood?

We have started a national association most veterans think it's about newbies, it's not. It finally a voice for us as professionals to share a stage to make this profession a true professional image to the consumers threw awareness.

Or I guess you can fight the fight alone , you can't win alone. It takes a people believing in the cause.


Ron Musgraves
www.uamcc.org
"Sidewalk cleaning"
 
Michael DeRose said:
Jim done right a cedar roof can be cleaned using bleach. Also waiting for moss to fall of on its own without using pressure is a proven fact that it works and the moss does clean off with rain. There is less chance of injury and no chance for damage to be done to the roof with this method.
To each his own. I will choose the safest method to clean every time. If everet Abrams cleans cedar roofs with bleach then so will I.
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Yes we all will stick with the methods proven by our peers.

We need these standards so to the consumer we separate ourselves from hacks


Ron Musgraves
www.uamcc.org
"Sidewalk cleaning"
 
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