Charlotte NC Wash Seminar April 30

The Charlotte Workshop was in the works and then they called the UAMCC. When they called we agreed to help and thats what we are doing, with the help of many we are going to give voice to the contractors. We need a voice, can you imagine if contractors werent involved in this. UAMCC will work hard for contractors, this isnt about an Org, its about us contractors

Just so everyone knows this is just one of at least a few Workshops Charlotte is going to hold. Carlos Gonzales of the UAMCC asked them and explained that there is a lot involved as they already knew but they guaranteed there would be other Workshops this year, a series of Workshops. That was a very positive step and needed

Heck I wish we never had to deal with it


Just remembers there are more Workshops coming in Charlotte

I got to go tell my neighbor to stop changing his motor oil over the storm drain. :eek: LOL

Hope many go, it will be good seeing all
 
Very recently, the PWNC became involved with the Wash Water Seminar being sponsored by the City of Charlotte, County of Mecklenburg and the UAMCC.

The PWNC fully supports the efforts of Mr. Hinderliter and the UAMCC in their endeavor to influence the enforcement of the already established Federal CWA. By implementing industry composed BMP's, our professionals have the opportunity to once again, set themselves apart from the noncompliant, uninsured companies that we fondly refer to as "hacks" and "lowballers". These steps should not enrage or frighten professional companies. The contractors in the Carolinas, whether PWNC Network Associates or not - should embrace these activities as another step attempt to weed out those who we do not want to compete with.

I want to encourage all contract cleaners who work in or around the Charlotte/Mecklenburg County area to not only attend this meeting, but also plan to meet with us afterwards for a contractor lunch and discussion. This informal lunch is for contractors (only) who will be directly or indirectly affected by the discussion held that morning.

Further, I have been in lengthy calls with the folks coordinating this effort. I am compiling a list of questions to provide for the panel to answer. Time is limited for this meeting and presending the questions adds a little more likelihood that your question will be addressed.

For more information on the lunch or to "register" your attendance or to submit a question, please contact me directly either by phone (336-261-3051) or by email (info@pwnc.org)

Thank you.
 
PWNC said:
Very recently, the PWNC became involved with the Wash Water Seminar being sponsored by the City of Charlotte, County of Mecklenburg and the UAMCC.

The PWNC fully supports the efforts of Mr. Hinderliter and the UAMCC in their endeavor to influence the enforcement of the already established Federal CWA. By implementing industry composed BMP's, our professionals have the opportunity to once again, set themselves apart from the noncompliant, uninsured companies that we fondly refer to as "hacks" and "lowballers". These steps should not enrage or frighten professional companies. The contractors in the Carolinas, whether PWNC Network Associates or not - should embrace these activities as another step attempt to weed out those who we do not want to compete with.

I want to encourage all contract cleaners who work in or around the Charlotte/Mecklenburg County area to not only attend this meeting, but also plan to meet with us afterwards for a contractor lunch and discussion. This informal lunch is for contractors (only) who will be directly or indirectly affected by the discussion held that morning.

Further, I have been in lengthy calls with the folks coordinating this effort. I am compiling a list of questions to provide for the panel to answer. Time is limited for this meeting and presending the questions adds a little more likelihood that your question will be addressed.

For more information on the lunch or to "register" your attendance or to submit a question, please contact me directly either by phone (336-261-3051) or by email (info@pwnc.org)

Thank you.
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Strength in numbers. Very professional people there in Charlotte . All contractors need to be involved. Glad you're on board.

Even thou I wish I could just bury my head in the sand :)
 
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I would suggest that any and all contractors in the North & South Carolina area be at this seminar. The info from this meeting will not just affect the contractors in Charlotte, it Will Affect ALL CONTRACTORS IN THE U.S..

As some may know I am a licensed Wastewater Operator in the state of North Carolina, I can tell you that the time is coming that if you're not in compliance with the Rules & Regs. that are about to be set forth, you will be looking at fines of $10,000.00 (min) and/or 1 yr. in jail.

Look Forward To Seeing Everyone There!
 
I would like to clear up my previous post. It was not meant to be a scare type thing. Only that as contractors we need to be informed and make sure our concerns are heard and understood.

I can tell you that in my 10yrs. of working in Wastewater, that by working closely with the Local and State Powers That Be ( Water & Wastewater ) you will find them to be very open and helpful, and they will work with you to find the best solution to what ever problem both of our industries have.

But just as a lot of contractors don't understand Wastewater, the City and State Water and Wastewater Powers don't understand the Pressure Washing Industry. I see this as a great opportunity for our Industry!
 
Guy Blackmon said:
Ron, this is the kind of information that needs to be presented in Charlotte. If you have any more please post them here or email them to me and I will take them to Charlotte.
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Guy if you check the eviro forum or just search BMP you will find it.
 
offdutyfireman said:
Okay then, here goes. If water reclaim is being pushed down throats out west, it has to suck and I feel for you.But why in hell woud an orginazation that is supposed that to help the industry have anything to do with starting enforcement in a state that doesn'. I know that it is coming eventually, but let it come at it's own slow pace. Unions have never been beneficial, with the exception of shutting down the auto industry. Keep it out of the Carolinas please. Just my thoughts, that I have tried to keep to my self after being toldby many that I was off base and it would bring the industry together. I think I might have been right.
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Hey William, you know me somewhat and I can promise you the UAMCC has nothing to do with starting enforcement the City CAME TO the UAMCC. believe me I rather never hear about this stuff, but I rather the city call than just make up rules on their own without the contractors being involved.

I'll post more later.
 
Jeff, I know you are a stand up guy and I take your word for it. I spoke with Mike K and he basically said the same thing. However, just because they contacted the UAMCC first doesn't necessarily mean that it should become involved due to the conflict of interest. When a person that makes their living selling equipment to contractors is the one presenting the case, one can only wonder what the motives are. Sometimes it might be better to step aside to avoid the appearance of being tainted. You know my stance with the uamcc union. I won't trash them if they don't bother me. Live and let live. But now it appears as though they are coming across country to my back yard. I think the thing to do would have been to decline and pass the info on to local contactors to attend and put in input. I take exception to someone I don't know representing me and looking out "my best interest". I just see ulterior motives. Hopefully I am wrong and if so, will admit it. Hope your business is slamming. We are rounding the corner on 350 apartment buildings so far this year and more on the schedule. Life is good.
 
offdutyfireman said:
Jeff, I know you are a stand up guy and I take your word for it. I spoke with Mike K and he basically said the same thing. However, just because they contacted the UAMCC first doesn't necessarily mean that it should become involved due to the conflict of interest. When a person that makes their living selling equipment to contractors is the one presenting the case, one can only wonder what the motives are. Sometimes it might be better to step aside to avoid the appearance of being tainted. You know my stance with the uamcc union. I won't trash them if they don't bother me. Live and let live. But now it appears as though they are coming across country to my back yard. I think the thing to do would have been to decline and pass the info on to local contactors to attend and put in input. I take exception to someone I don't know representing me and looking out "my best interest". I just see ulterior motives. Hopefully I am wrong and if so, will admit it. Hope your business is slamming. We are rounding the corner on 350 apartment buildings so far this year and more on the schedule. Life is good.
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William its a fact they came to us, theres a lot of contractors back yards here. We are putting it to local contractoors, they the City is contacting many by city records and we are putting it out there in emails and the BB's, we would of been stupid to say no thanks City of Charlotte you just do what you think is best, it could of been left up to some politicain or gov agency...with no contractor involvement

I just posted over at UAMCC, I figured I would post it here. I know how you feel William about the UAMCC hopefully someday you will see its an org for contractors and thats it, see the next post
 
THIS WAS A RESPONCE TO SOMEONE ELSES POST but here's what I wrote, This Workshop could/was going a whole other way before they called the UAMCC

How true they don't know the pressure washing industry. This is going to be a good meeting because there is going to be a lot of contractor involvement

I mentioned in a post that I had a national org call me (JL Pressure Washing) to speak at the Charlotte meeting before the agenda was set. This was shortly after the UAMCC got called from the people in Charlotte, some time ago……..... FYI, let me say one thing here before I go on, there is someone or persons for some reason that is saying the UAMCC went to Charlotte to get this going. This is NOT true, it’s a lie and can be verified by the city, the City of Charlotte contacted the UAMCC, . Luckily they (the City of Charlotte) did call a contractors org like the UAMCC, because if not it could of all been driven by those that don’t have the contractors point of view and concerns in mind

Back to the call JL Pressure Washing got. I was contacted by CETA which is a national org for manufactures and distributors. They told me about the Charlotte meeting and said they were going to be there and be a part of the meeting. She said she knows of JL Pressure Washing and have seen us around, she said that the City wanted to have some contractors at the meeting and she asked if I would come and speak at the meeting….I sort of laughed, I told her I was not qualified to speak on the matter, I don’t know all there is to know on the subject. But I did say I would be there and that I was a part of the UAMCC, she was a real nice lady and it was left that I would go to the meeting.

One of the good things about this WORKSHOP and how Carlos of the UAMCC got the city to make this all about contractor involvement, it wasn’t like that at first. The UAMCC got the city to agree on not just ONE WORKSHOP for contractors concerns and dialogue, after several calls he got them to agree and think that it’s a good idea to have other workshops on this subject this year. Not just have a meeting and walk away and make rules & BMP’s. Nothing of this importance to our industry should be done in just a half day seminar. Carlos is working hard for the contractors, the UAMCC is working hard to make sure the contractors voice is heard. The city was very accepting of the UAMCC ideas. IF YOU ALL NOTICE, this is for contractors to ask questions, to help form rules, laws & BMP’s. CETA is no longer involved in this meeting, not that CETA is the bad guy or anything but they sure do have different agenda than the contractor. I am just happy that the City of Charlotte called the UAMCC, it is now why this is ALL ABOUT THE CONTRACTORS and all contractors should join in and help, its about our livelihood

This wasn’t released to the public right away because the agenda, schedule & brochure that the city put together wasn’t ready and it was up to the city to give the OK. This is very important topic, that the government is doing eventually nation wide. What happens here could affect cities and municipalities across the country. There are some good BMP’s out there but there are also some horrible BMP’s out there and the bad ones were probably put together with very little contractor input or thought. Like many have posted its coming sooner or later, we aren’t going looking for this but nationally it will be here sooner or later and when they come calling I hope they call the UAMCC a national org, an org dedicated to the contractors interests.

Before or after the meeting, anytime, if you all have questions for the UAMCC about this, we will be glad to listen and answer any questions.

I look forward to seeing everyone April 30th
 
First off you guys act like this is new, the PWNA has to date written many BMPS for several citys.

Robert H has been involved in some, very few compared to the entire country.

Second and third this is nothing New.

Third, I knew about this for sometime.

Fourth,
Rumors are like terrorism, people that spread this like to see it hurt people. We really should not address this at all. Look at it like when Americans are held hostage, we don’t negotiate. Jeff, if the facts are told like this was at the beginning then speculation cannot happen. My reason for someone making this assumption is that no other BMP by a national org was ever requested by a city government. It was usually sold the idea or told about them.
I believe the Uamcc was called to help; they are the new voice for the industry. The old voice PWNA will be writing BMP with Robert in the future also. Robert now represents both sides.

We could just start another rumor, a person told a person that told another person that PWNA and Uamcc is merging together. LOL See how silly this is? By morning phone calls will be flying and people will have accepted it and it a done deal.

What we really need to do is come together and let these people know that many cities throughout the US have excellent BMPS that allow us to work responsible without all the control and expense as to put so many out of business.
 
By the way CETA wants tough regulation from the RUMORS i have heard.

The carwash association have been trying to put detailers out of business for some time.

This is why we cannot talk about mobile powerwash and carwash together.

LOL, Ron doesnt know what hes talking about..LOL
 
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