I have switched over to roof snot, works better than hang tight. I think Chris Tucker is pushing the use of dawn ultra, I'll stick with roof snot.
No Mike, I accidentally discovered that Ultra Gain Original Scent has some of the same stuff in it (Lauramine) as Roof Snot. Ammonyx is a brand name for the Chemical Lauramine Oxide, by the way.
Awhile ago, several of us at the RCIA started looking for chlorine stable surfactants. Billy Jensen of H20 pressure washing in New Port Richey Florida discovered Lauramine (Ammonyx LO). I found Myristamine. Myristamine is better then Lauramine, but it is hard to get, in a steady supply.
I do not sell chemicals, nor do I "push" any product. I make my discoveries known to everyone, and have for years. Lori from PWP was actively involved with the RCIA Forum back then, so she read what was going on with our efforts to find a superior (chlorine stable) surfactant. She jumped on our discoveries, and went to market with them.
LOL Mike, I can not keep track of Lori. She has had many many names for the surfactants we discovered at the RCIA. Apple Butter, Hang Tite, Gription, to name a few!
I do know the stuff she used to call Apple Butter
had Myristamine in it! Hang Tite has Lauramine (Ammonyx) in it, the same thing as Roof Snot.
However, there are several suppliers of Lauramine (Ammonyx) Mike, and there can be slight viscosity (thickness) differences, from one supplier to another.
It is very possible that Russ Johnson has found the very best supplier of Lauramine for his product Mike.
Or, it is possible that both Hang Tite and Roof Snot are the same, I really don't know.
Nor do I really care either, since I have plenty of Myristamine.
Is Myristamine better ?
Yes, it is.
It is much thicker, allowing us to use less for the same results, or if we use the same amount of Myristamine as Roof Snot or Hang Tite, it sticks a lot better.
The ULTIMATE roof cleaning surfactant is still to come! It will be a
combination of Both Lauramine and Myristamine Mike.
I have posted viscosity formulation charts at the RCIA Forum that clearly show a combination of the 2 chlorine stable surfactants is the way to go.
It is hard to comprehend that mixing the thinner Lauramine with Myristamine, will actually yield a super surfactant, that is much thicker then Myristamine, by itself!
Now, the next logical question is this. Where does Ultra Gain Original Scent Dishwashing Liquid fit in, in the grand scheme of things ?
It is cheap, easy to get, and smells good too.
It works, and works well.
However, though it does have
some of the same stuff in it (Lauramine) as Roof Snot or Hang Tite, I do not feel it is quite as good.
But, I am only going on my recall of Ammonyx. Myristamine is so much better, I have not had any Ammonyx here in years to test against The Ultra Gain.
The Ultra Gain also has an "advantage" some will like, because it smells good. If you use enough of it, several at the RCIA have found it does a decent job of masking the chlorine smell.
However, the use of Roof Snot, combined with a real chlorine stable scent, is still going to be better I feel.
Though the Ultra Gain smells pretty good, all by itself, or in some water only, when it is mixed with chlorine, it does not smell especially good.
I suggest the Roof Snot with Green Apple, or some other chlorine stable fragrance, vs using the Ultra Gain all by itself, for smell masking.