If you think Facilitecs Foam Tec doesnt work
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Brian Penney
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I was just talking to Matt about Facilitec the other day. They tried to take an account away from me and their selling point was the foamtech. They tried saying it was new technology in cleaning and they could do a better job than us. It only took 2 jobs for them to screw up and leave a mess and do a half ass job. Not only did I keep those 55 stores but they asked for a bid on the whole region. You can have the best equipment and chemicals but the bottom line is it comes down to the people doing the work. That being said I think their foaming process is a good idea.
P.S. Thanks Matt for all the info I really appreciate all your help. I will keep you posted as to how I make out.
P.S. Thanks Matt for all the info I really appreciate all your help. I will keep you posted as to how I make out.
Scott Miller
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Matt
Do you know the process they use to create the foam?
We have used ecolabs Fast foam applied with pump up sprayer and found that when left to dwell 10 or 15 minutes it works well to desolve baked on carbon and grease like you find over McDonald's fryers exhaust ports.
On our next job I will run some thru the foamer tank we use to see if it foams.
Do you know the process they use to create the foam?
We have used ecolabs Fast foam applied with pump up sprayer and found that when left to dwell 10 or 15 minutes it works well to desolve baked on carbon and grease like you find over McDonald's fryers exhaust ports.
On our next job I will run some thru the foamer tank we use to see if it foams.
mbryan
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I am almost positive, Mirza has his shit together. It is a pretty big secret nonetheless. After he showed me the brochure for the Foam Tec I asked him for a bottle of it. He said I could have one, but the bottle would be empty.
No problem dude. For what its worth, I think you are really kicking ass out there, your numbers are awesome.
I have a foaming agent you can try out that works really well. Give me a call if you want a sample. All I ask in return is a tshirt with your company name on it, Im starting a collection
You wont have nearly the same effect with a foamer attached to a pressure washer. This is basically straight chemical mix which is foamed up with air to make it stick. Imagine pumping chemical out of a huge shaving cream bottle. You can never miss an area and you can walk away from it for (almost) as long as you want and it will continue to work.
Fear the foam
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dodsonish
Grease Police President
bryanexhaust said:I have a foaming agent you can try out that works really well. Give me a call if you want a sample. All I ask in return is a tshirt with your company name on it, Im starting a collection
I can have the shirt in the mail next week. I'm guessing size XL, since you are livin' large out there. I'll throw an extra one in the box for Chris. If he likes the way it fits I can get him a 5 day supply made up.
indiana jones
Member
Matt,
Facilitesc has certainly streamlined the process. Cold water machines, no scraping, and foamers. Sounds like he's using the foamers from foamit.com and he used to use knight chemicals that Douglas was talking about a while back with some agent thrown in. Btw, how do you guys have pictures of their recently done work. Do the customers call you in to investigate?
Facilitesc has certainly streamlined the process. Cold water machines, no scraping, and foamers. Sounds like he's using the foamers from foamit.com and he used to use knight chemicals that Douglas was talking about a while back with some agent thrown in. Btw, how do you guys have pictures of their recently done work. Do the customers call you in to investigate?
mbryan
New member
XL is good, it gives my gut more room to breathe, I will be watching the mailbox. You want some foam booster? Not reccomended unless you have a foamer. No shirts for Chris, I don't want him to get too comfortable in them.
Who knows, the customer may be looking for a better price, I cant give him any better work.
I know that Facilitec is getting really high tech with their machines, but it looks like they have taken a step backwards with their rooftop containment systems. Here is one I found that instead of the Facilitec logo and Grease Guard on it, they have Daryls name. I guess the fame is going to his head
Who knows, the customer may be looking for a better price, I cant give him any better work.
I know that Facilitec is getting really high tech with their machines, but it looks like they have taken a step backwards with their rooftop containment systems. Here is one I found that instead of the Facilitec logo and Grease Guard on it, they have Daryls name. I guess the fame is going to his head
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cgibson
facilisales Machine
dodsonish said:I'll throw an extra one in the box for Chris. If he likes the way it fits I can get him a 5 day supply made up.
Josh, I only need 3 shirts
A clean one for every day of the week I work.
We hardly ever run into Facilitec. The place is a local chain and they happened to call after their service.
I suspect they were price shopping. We can help them in that department - I'll even throw in the "BRYAN FOAM" for free.
grizzley
Member
bryanexhaust said:
OK.... I'll notice. However, NFPA states that it should not be coated AFTER cleaning:
11.4.8 After the exhaust system is cleaned, it shall not be
coated with powder or other substance.
If they are leaving foam, that is "other substance", correct?
An argument might be "It's not 'done' until the foam stops working, usually 48 hours after the guys leave the job".
OK, but, if thats the case, then they have to return to a job 48 hours later AND replace any access panels that were removed, apply their sticker, plus some other things outlined in NFPA 96. Not to mention, the restraunt is out of service until they can complete the cleaning.
11.4.9 When cleaning procedures are completed, all access
panels (doors) and cover plates shall be restored to their normal
operational condition.
11.4.11 When cleaning procedures are completed, all electrical
switches and system components shall be returned to an
operable state.
11.4.13 After cleaning is completed, the vent cleaning contractor
shall place or display within the kitchen area a label
indicating the date cleaned, the
Notice it says "When cleaning procedures are COMPLETE"....
Maybe I am reading too much into it
mbryan
New member
grizzley said:
I'll see if I can dig some regular service stuff up but this is a first service Chinese place that was done with the foam. It was scraped first mind you.
grizzley said:
I cant imagine that leaving chemical on a system after cleaning falls in to that category but I'm sure it is all washed off anyway.
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mbryan
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Technically we started about 5 years ago but it wasn't until just last year that we actually got it to work the way we wanted, the right chemical made all the difference. We only use it on certain jobs, those units run over $1000 each and I have to pay big sales salaries to "G-Money" every year.
I am going to take it out next week on some regular service jobs that we have and test it out against the traditional methods. Who knows, we may be "All foam, all the time" by the end of the year.
I am going to take it out next week on some regular service jobs that we have and test it out against the traditional methods. Who knows, we may be "All foam, all the time" by the end of the year.
indiana jones
Member
What about running some of that bonzai stuff thru a wand end foamer, wouldn't that give a good sticky foam?
mtngoat
Member
To Foam is to Dwell, To Dwell is to wait, Why wait when you can go,go,go!
It has been my experience that foam does work, However - I like to keep the job in progress as much as possible. Therefore, I rarely use foam. Its good for interiors and exteriors of equipment that have stubborn build up. Your still going to have to scrape heavy carbon buildup. Only way around it is to replace all the equipment your cleaning with new shiny equipment.
It has been my experience that foam does work, However - I like to keep the job in progress as much as possible. Therefore, I rarely use foam. Its good for interiors and exteriors of equipment that have stubborn build up. Your still going to have to scrape heavy carbon buildup. Only way around it is to replace all the equipment your cleaning with new shiny equipment.