Is the organization online???

Ron Musgraves

Ron Musgraves

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Very interesting stuff, at least two and maybe four small org have come out of one meeting.

This is a great thing, possibly many people may have more ideas and want to help others in starting.

Everyone that actually did something keep it up and if you need real help please call.
 
Our directories are up and the Contractors Only area is being populated with information daily. The PWNC will be ready to officially rock and roll beginning in early 2008!

Celeste
 
Ron your visit with Carlos is going to be a real interesting on to say the least.Just don't go all in when in Vegas---if u do; throw some of the wealth around you cheapo--J/K cause I know you spend money on causes that you believe in.

I'll be looking to track you down right after the holidays. There is plenty of work that I am going to be doing with some players in the industry and you my friend are one of those players...Talk with u soon.. Let it ride-Great Movie" ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAYs;)
 
Ron Musgraves said:
Very interesting stuff, at least two and maybe four small org have come out of one meeting.

This is a great thing, possibly many people may have more ideas and want to help others in starting.

Everyone that actually did something keep it up and if you need real help please call.
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What two orgs RON? NYPWC and PWNC networks were in the works long before the ACT RT. We are waiting to see what comes out of ACR RT. I suspect good things will come of them and there will be other netwoks started by individuals in other areas who choose to take the initiative.

PS Thanks for your insight that you have given for NYPWC
 
Ron,
I don't think either the NC one or the NY one are non-profits. I recall reading the NC is not, and I'm sure I'll be corrected if NY is one...
Beth
 
Not certain where non-profit even entered this topic, but first, the PWNC has never claimed, implied or suggested we are non-profit. This would be a word associated with ORGANIZATION, something I have maintained from the start that we are NOT in the common definition on these forums. Secondly, organizations do not have to be non-profit. Tons of organizations and associations are for profit. Non-profits just have a different tax status...doesn't mean they aren't supposed to make money, otherwise known as profit.

Celeste
 
CarolinaProWash said:
Not certain where non-profit even entered this topic, but first, the PWNC has never claimed, implied or suggested we are non-profit. This would be a word associated with ORGANIZATION, something I have maintained from the start that we are NOT in the common definition on these forums. Secondly, organizations do not have to be non-profit. Tons of organizations and associations are for profit. Non-profits just have a different tax status...doesn't mean they aren't supposed to make money, otherwise known as profit.

Celeste
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Hey Celeste, how'd you get so good at organizing an ORG. LOL
 
Funny Jeff :) I have actually been involved in a number of non-profits and for profit organizations during my lifetime. Besides that, during a class I took at church for Spiritual Gifts, apparently my God-given talent that I should use is administering and gathering people together. You might say I'm doing something I'm supposed to be.

Celeste
 
Beth & Rod said:
Ron,
I don't think either the NC one or the NY one are non-profits. I recall reading the NC is not, and I'm sure I'll be corrected if NY is one...
Beth
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Beth

LOL, I am glad to see, once again, that you are keeping your finger on the pulse of the industry. For this I applaud you. I thought that you would have a new org framework rolled out to us by now, but I see where it could be delayed with your attention focused on someone else’s business. …

You have shown an interest in for profit and not for profit org verses network, perhaps you could shed some light on the difference between a FOR PROFIT Industry bulletin board and a NOT FOR PROFIT BBS (Like the one here at pressure washing institute) and if you think one is better than the other.

Again, thanks for your attention, Perhaps we should meet for a beer sometime to discuss this further...LOL
 
Matt,
I am not, by any means, focused on what you or anyone else is doing. I am focused on our business, and other projects I am involved in. They get my attention as time allows, and as it is my time I see nothing wrong with that.

I'm not sure why you are posturing the way you are. I only mentioned that it was my understanding that both yours and Celeste's are for profit for the purpose of clarity. Celeste said it herself, the word organization seems to be most often connected to non-profit by association. And Celeste, I did say right off the bat that I understood yours was for profit, so I am not sure why you are being defensive either.

I wish you well with your NY networking project. It could be good for those in the state of NY. Same goes for the NC effort.

Beth
 
There's a certain amount of baggage and toxicity associated with some that most likely wouldn't be tolerated by many others interested in forming new associations, orgs, foundations, clubs, unions or whatever else anyone wants to call them. Pretending to be sheep can be dangerous when past actions indicate otherwise.

Seems like playing to their strengths, while correcting and strengthening their weaknesses would be wise for the old school clique. Some of those have damaged their individual credibilities with several bad moves and bad calls in the past, both recent and in years past.

As much as I would like to see a new national org (?) founded and prospering, I personally don't believe our industry is ready for such a beast.

Kudos to Celeste and the others. I think they might be on to something.
 
Actually, I was only being defensive as the PWNC being classified as an organization by the popular connotation on the forums again. The .org was not a choice as I wasn't interested in laying out over $4k for the .com location :)

As to the word organization being more commonly associated with the adjective non-profit, I have to disagree on that on. An organization can be either one. Whether for profit or non-profit, those terms should to be added when making a differentiation as assumptions can often be incorrect. Personally, I think that "non-profit" or "not-for-profit" is quite an abused concept as the majority of those type designations DO make a profit. Any business, and any organization is a business, who does not strive for a profit of some sort is foolish, IMO.
 
CarolinaProWash said:
Actually, I was only being defensive as the PWNC being classified as an organization by the popular connotation on the forums again. The .org was not a choice as I wasn't interested in laying out over $4k for the .com location :)

As to the word organization being more commonly associated with the adjective non-profit, I have to disagree on that on. An organization can be either one. Whether for profit or non-profit, those terms should to be added when making a differentiation as assumptions can often be incorrect. Personally, I think that "non-profit" or "not-for-profit" is quite an abused concept as the majority of those type designations DO make a profit. Any business, and any organization is a business, who does not strive for a profit of some sort is foolish, IMO.
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This has nothing to do with this, but its like those credit counseling companies that say they are non profit orgs...ya right. Makes it sound like they are helping you for free. I have never used one of them, but I bet you are paying for that service. Back to Celestes pressure washing & sewing circle and trying to take over the world or at least the Carolinas:p
 
Now Jeff, you know I would never try to take over the Carolinas without permission from the "King" of the southern one :)

And I take offense at the notion of a sewing circle - most who know me personally know I would MUCH rather be up a tree with a gun or a bow than poking holes in my fingers with a stupid needle!

Celeste
 
I don't care if an org...any org...or potential org...or a dream org is profit, non-profit or partially for profit or partially for non-profit, a 1/4 for profit and the rest non-profit, 1/4 non-profit and the other 3/4's for profit...or if the board make up comes from a nonprofit background.......or even if the bank that holds the money for is for profit.......as long as it benefits the industy....

There...that should settle that.... :rolleyes:
 
It doesn't really settle anything, just another "fence straddle" but you're starting to get good at the political roll, Carlos. **** could've used you 10 years ago.

Personally, I like you from what I know of you.......Politically, you might be leaning the wrong way, but time will have to prove that out.

Who's pulling the splinters out? :D
 
Don,

I sleep better at night knowing that you like me....:D

As far as the splinters...mmm....you may want to ask the other guy...I hear sitting in tree stands all day long can get a little ..."splintery"...:rolleyes:

If you don't understand the meaning behind that ...well...maybe the political circle of friends you speak with are actually speaking to me also....I am sure the other guy with the "splinters" will fill you in on that!:D

Give me a call sometime Don...
 
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