PWNA Environmental Structure, Robert Hinderliter-Pres;John Tornabene-Internet Chair

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Robert Hinderliter

Hall of Fame Member
PWNA Environmental President – Robert M. Hinderliter


Internet Committee – Chairman: John Tornabene



Nigel Griffith



Jim Gamble



Robert Hinderliter


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PWNA State Environmental chairman’s

Jim Gamble

N CA

JG

Chairman North West US

John Tornabene

NY

JT

Chairman North East US

Nigel Griffith

MD

NG

Chairman South East US

Robert Hinderliter

TX

RH

Chairman Central US

Shawn Downham

HI

SD

Chairman Pacific Islands

Ty Eubanks

S CA

TE

Chairman South West US


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Please go to www.pwna.org for contact information.
 
Robert found this list of 2013 webcasts for the Association of Watershead and Stormwater Professionals, an intresting topic tommorrow, it says closed, but if you are intrested they may still accept payment and allow vewing



[h=3]February 13, 2013 (12-2pm EST)[/h][h=2]1. Lose 10 Pounds of Pollution Without (Structural) BMPs --
the Joys of Good Housekeeping[/h]Closed
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“Prevention is better than cure.”
– Desiderius Erasmus
Good housekeeping refers to the assessment and subsequent alteration of municipal operations to reduce the amount and types of pollution entering the storm drain system. It is also an opportunity to use municipal facilities and operations to demonstrate better (or at least proper) stormwater management and can be a part of a community’s overall stormwater education and outreach program. This webcast will provide a working knowledge of the basic requirements for municipal pollution prevention and good housekeeping measures. The webcast will also discuss public and private stormwater hotspots, their identification and appropriate follow-up.

Nigel
 
PWNA Environmental President?

Logo rental and now inflated titles...I'm not sure what surprises me more, PWNA's ability to stay in existence with nothing but words and stickers or the people that think they need their logo to get orders.
 
Robert have you ever had and original IDEa?

Nice Copy Robert except we know its all Show.


We are not going to allow you to create more Houston's of GA's



Robert Hinderliter said:
PWNA Environmental President – Robert M. Hinderliter


Internet Committee – Chairman: John Tornabene



Nigel Griffith



Jim Gamble



Robert Hinderliter


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</tbody>




PWNA State Environmental chairman’s

Jim Gamble

N CA

JG

Chairman North West US

John Tornabene

NY

JT

Chairman North East US

Nigel Griffith

MD

NG

Chairman South East US

Robert Hinderliter

TX

RH

Chairman Central US

Shawn Downham

HI

SD

Chairman Pacific Islands

Ty Eubanks

S CA

TE

Chairman South West US


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</tbody>

Please go to www.pwna.org for contact information.
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Or the many contractors that lost 100,000's and there lives Changed for ever.

8 out of ten on the county list no longer pressure wash, they say the businesses won't do it for fear of being cited.

The County attributes the regulation the org pushed may not be working and want to look to revise.

Do you Care Robert, I will not take no for answer to comment. I guess since until now you have worked alone on your program please explain?
 
The Men and family's who counted on you as there representative watch Houston's enforcement say " if we see a pressure washer will cite him and let the judge sort it out"

Robert you when Back to the national association and said there is no problem in Houston.

This was when my respect for you was gone and that change was needed.

20 years of nothing but your copied documents and repetitive BS to regulators.

Robert I'm going to petition the industry asked for you resignation for good. It might be a public resignation but I will take it to regulator to show you do not have the support of the majority of this industry nor do you look out for there welfare.
 
I'm serious folks this is a War on our industry, if you think these men have your best interest you may find yourself in the situation as others who lost everything. Deck washers having to reclaim wash water, proposes house washing reclaim numerous times headed off by others concerned. Why are we allowing this to continue and repeat itself?

You will here more PWI drama, its not drama its real and you might be the next guy finding yourself as a major offender rather than a person who is a stewart to the environment.
 
Ron, this obviously is some kind of joke. It can't possibly be serious.

Just a few days ago John T was posting about how he didn't understand anything about all this environmental stuff and that's why he's glad Robert is doing it.

Now, all the sudden he is the Northeast expert.

Jim Gamble claimed that "one drop of caustic could kill off the wildlife in the sewer".

Robert does nothing but continuously post anything he can find that makes us look like we are enemies of the very environment that we clean.

For twenty years Robert has been the lone ranger. Now all the sudden he sees that we, at the Uamcc, are working with multiple contractors in all states to investigate their own areas to provide more accurate information than "here are our BMP's, but the rules may be different in your area".

Now all the sudden Robert wants a "team". To anybody with a brain it's easy to see that this is nothing more than some kind of joke. Pulling together the team of these two as sidekicks is like Barack Obama pulling together a coalition consisting of himself, Carrot top and Eddy Murphy to work towards peace in the Middle East. It's all for show. Robert is still the Lone Ranger calling all the shots.

Jill Shelton and I spent the morning with our regulators here in Las Vegas and with the top regulator in the state of Nevada. We, again, prepared them for the onslaught of bull that might be coming their way from these stooges in March. I've spent over a year working with these guys. Jill has been working with me for months learning this stuff so that she could feel comfortable at their meetings.

Doug Rucker has been working hard in his area.

Scott Stone knows the EPA inside and out.

There are many others in the UAMCC who have taken this seriously over the past year and have taken the time to learn and come together as a TEAM to redefine our industry and fix what has been broken in our industry for a long time.

It may have seemed that the UAMCC has been quiet this past year. I can assure you there is nothing further from the truth.

We have a huge task ahead of us and we have taken it seriously.

The addition of Jim and John to Robert's "team" is a slap in the face of every contractor trying to work hard to put food on the table for their families and the families of their employees.

This is not the time for jokes.
 
Re: PWNA Environmental, Robert Hinderliter-Pres;John Tornabene-Internet Chair

If anyone is reading TGS... my next prediction... Kristopher Pettit for PWNA Environmental Media Liaison. Lol.

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Ron Musgraves said:
I have to tell Old Friends this orgs agenda is against there own people. or at least 25%
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Ron why did you send one person 82 texts per hour and call another's persons wife because he would not take you phone calls?

Do you want to reveal their names. They asked me not to. Now it is up to you.
 
Tony Shelton said:
If anyone is reading TGS... my next prediction... Kristopher Pettit for PWNA Environmental Media Liaison. Lol.

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From Ron's Personal Hit Man.
 
Robert Hinderliter said:
From Ron's Personal Hit Man.
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I am glad to be of service. And you can ease up on the misleading. Ron, Doug and some of my own customers have sent me 20 or 50 texts at a time because they were long cut and pastes of texts and were broken up into many text messages. Just another example of your subtle attempts to discredit by leaving details out.

Your days of bullying your way to profits off the backs of contractors are over.

You've exposed yourself. John T produced an email just the other day showing how, years ago, you "founded" the UAMCC as a protectionist organization for a few manufacturers and distributors just so they could corner the market. Your "internet environmental president" or whatever you call John in the PWN@ was just too ignorant of the content to realize how d@mning it was.

By the end of this year you will have zero credibility with the regulators and contractors alike, as it should be. Deception and profiteering can only last so long.

There's virtually nothing on the entire internet touting your "expertise" in the environmental field that wasn't craftily written by YOU yourself.

Nice try. But the charade can't go on forever.

The sad thing is, if you had only been willing to work WITH the industry, instead of against it and if you gave a d@mn about anyone other than yourself you could have retired with a sense of accomplishment instead of defeat and shame. You probably would have made more money in your sales businesses with honesty than you have made with craftiness.
 
Tony Shelton said:
I am glad to be of service. And you can ease up on the misleading. Ron, Doug and some of my own customers have sent me 20 or 50 texts at a time because they were long cut and pastes of texts and were broken up into many text messages. Just another example of your subtle attempts to discredit by leaving details out.

Your days of bullying your way to profits off the backs of contractors are over.

You've exposed yourself. John T produced an email just the other day showing how, years ago, you "founded" the UAMCC as a protectionist organization for a few manufacturers and distributors just so they could corner the market. Your "internet environmental president" or whatever you call John in the PWN@ was just too ignorant of the content to realize how d@mning it was.

By the end of this year you will have zero credibility with the regulators and contractors alike, as it should be. Deception and profiteering can only last so long.

There's virtually nothing on the entire internet touting your "expertise" in the environmental field that wasn't craftily written by YOU yourself.

Nice try. But the charade can't go on forever.

The sad thing is, if you had only been willing to work WITH the industry, instead of against it and if you gave a d@mn about anyone other than yourself you could have retired with a sense of accomplishment instead of defeat and shame. You probably would have made more money in your sales businesses with honesty than you have made with craftiness.
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Sorry Tony I have been corrected, it was 82 in 90 minutes.
 
Robert Hinderliter said:
Sorry Tony I have been corrected, it was 82 in 90 minutes.
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Robert un-real the only guy I Text yesterday was Rob Huffman because I had help the man in the past and like always he said some un-speakable things that truly hurt my feelings.

It was a private conversation so I'm not going to post it YET!!

I'll give Rob and opportunity to either call you a Liar or post I'm lying and prove it.

Or maybe the story came to you through another Liar.
 
Calling people wives happens all the time, I'm certain that when contractors do not answer there phones there wives pick up the phones.

Never in my life have I ever disrespected anyones wife, your on a slippery slope I hope Mikes attorney is good Robert because you might be using him if this Non-sense continues.


I know who the names are Robert, Only talked with one women yesterday. Same man who said we promised him a free hotel Room.
 
Robert Hinderliter said:
Sorry Tony I have been corrected, it was 82 in 90 minutes.
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Is there anything you won't distort Robert?

I have in my possession the texts in question from yesterday. It is nothing more than a normal back and forth conversation.

In contrast to my texts where I just simply text my entire message in a single text and let the system split it up, Ron just texts a sentence at a time when sending an entire paragraph.

The texts you are talking about are

1) much less in quantity than you are claiming and
2) nothing more than a normal back and forth conversation between two people.

You, sir, have no credibility left.

There's no polite way to put it. You are surrounded by others who have no credibility and not honor or work ethic.

They take every opportunity to lie or exaggerate about others to try to benefit their pitiful businesses that would fail without constant massaging by threats of the government whether that be the EPA or some KEC "required" certifications.

Why not just simply try doing a good job for a fair price? Is that too honest? Is that too "old fashioned" for you in this modern economy?

Rob Huffman, have you joined these people? I never thought that would happen. Are you going to allow this ridiculous misrepresentation of what happened to continue or are you going to man up and call a spade a spade and put another nail in the coffin of the "icon"?
 
Ron,
You have made this personal. You do not need to call me anymore. The 80 texts that you write telling me how I stabbed you in the back will do no justice. Bringing my family into it was a little over the top. Especially from a president of an Org.

Ron,
I am not on any band wagon. I asked questions as I did years ago. If you want to continue to avoid the answers and use your smoke screen effect thats fine.

There was a reason I did not join as an instructor months ago when you consistently asked me and theres a reason I would not do it now. You are deceiving the contractors in so many ways. I am not questioning the other because they are not offering certification from a National Org that is suppose to represent my industry.

You say this org is booming. How many members? I am hearing 87. Thats not a national Org...thats a networking group. You and the BOD have avoided the 5 year question and now looks like it will be 1 yr before you can be certified. Have fun with those lawsuits. Discrimination at its finest.

You yourself told me that the UAMCC was staying clear of certificates did you not? Why the change? Revenue stream I presume. Again its a disception to the contractor not to come forth. I am not in the least interested anymore. I am done with the UAMCC. I wish it would have succeeded...yes. Do I see it succeeding...NO. I said that a couple years back and somehow it seems to be lingering.

Thanks Ron and good luck to your BOD...
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C & S Property Services
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Rob Huffmans Answer here


Apparently I also threatened his family in those texts.

A guy I once helped turns at the drop of a hat, openly admitted he would join and them here admits he was lying not to tell me the truth as to why.


People should stop with all that president of the org, I have feelings like any man.

I'm not the guy assaulting the industry
 
Re: PWNA Environmental Se, Robert Hinderliter-Pres;John Tornabene-Internet Chair

Rob post the 80 texts or join your buddies in a loss of credibility.

Unbelievable.

Maybe you didn't have anything to do with the success of the convention either. Did you make that up too?

I guess that will be the last time I back you based on your word.

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