Talk about speaking up

max_rob

New member
I have posted a whole two posts on the PWNA board, and the response I have gotten to one of them makes me think that there are idiots among us. No dis-respect to Ron and the other PWNA members I see on here, for this does not pertain to you guys and gals. But I asked a simple question about the PWNA certification for Kitchen exhausts, and I got the response that didn't have any bearing on my question. It seems that, the PWNA board is just for PWNA people which is fine, but I will not be visiting the board again. Instead I will be staying here where the help makes sense the majority of the time.

Speaking of the PWNA though, and maybe you can answer this Ron. Why haven't they in all these years, made relationships with the federal Health Departments, and Fire Marshal depts? And try to have standards sent down that actually get the orginization credibility. I mean if I as one person get my state health dept and fire marshal to listen to me, and together come up with common sense standards, then why is it a national org with 600 members can't do the same on a federal level?

Here is a suggestion. Have the Pres of the PWNA get on the phone and call the Pres of the NFPA. They could talk about this standard they have for certification. Then they together could set up a confrence call with the national fire marshal dept. They could talk about the problems in the industry and how it would be beneficial to restuarants and fire marshals, to actually require any company that is going to be cleaning resturant hood vents and exhaust systems, to first take this test and be certified to do the cleaning.

But no, the old pres of the PWNA rather would like to talk about going to vegas and getting people scores on their certifications that in reality, hold no weight except in the power washing industry where it does them no good. This would also get people like me to join this organization because after years of being around and not actually getting anything done, they could say "look here we have achieved this common sense thing". If I as one person can do these things in 2 months, then the PWNA can get it done. My god it's a series of phone calls and meetings. And if the Pres can afford to go to Vegas for a convention, then he can certainly afford to go meet with the NFPA and the National Fire Marshals office.
 
Rob

i did not read your post on the other site.
I dont know who posted what.
I will say, just like on any of these bbs. No one can really control who post's what. Dont base everything on one or two responses.
I think you can find more good then bad in that org.
All im trying to say is "dont burn any bridges"
We need a voice. If we were strong enuff to contol some votes then the people that get voted on have to pay attention.
Once they pay attention then we can get better help.
The PWNA IS THE CLOSEST THING WE HAVE TO GETTING TO THAT POINT.
Just my opinion and im not a member[yet]
maybe if more guy's like you were there to lead by exsample,i might join faster.
 
Rob,

No disrespect taken, if I may ask could you copy and paste the post here or e-mail it. I would love to take a look before I comment. I couldn’t find a user name for you one the PWNA bbs. Are you using a different name or did I just miss you?


I support the org and I agree with most comments made. The only difference between me and the people who complain is that I’m trying to change this. (Please take no offense to that statement) I too looked in and made the same statements and still do. I walk on a wire around the organization and I’m sure others there do not appreciate my efforts. On the other hand some have expressed they are refreshed with some of the new things we have changed.

Just having bbs was a huge step!!!

Alone we cannot change this organization; we need help and unfortunately money.

Rob some on the pwna get there panty’s all bunched up when people like your self so-call moan about these problems. I’m refreshed that you have notice that you see things you don’t agree or like. This will be the only way these folks will see change is necessary. I’m with you and I probably respect your opinion and can’t say you’re wrong. Just chose a different path.
 
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