Things That Make You Go Hmmm

I haven't been around long enough to figure out where all the negative bashing comes from...and why. But I do know that a couple of Ron-involved NCE events has put my young business on the right path and has me excited about 2010! I have been provided excellent advice from Ron and others on several occasions, met several great contacts at the NCE events to network and partner with, continue to learn from PWI each week, and won a few cool prizes. Thank you, Ron!
 
Tom Please Understand This Is Not Pointed At You!!!!!!!!

Most Distributors I have met, treat the contractor like they're idiots. I have seen this time and time again.

Once a Distributor finds out that you are knowledgeable about equipment, chemicals or washing in general they go on the defensive. This has happened to me more than I care to remember.

You see now the BS factor has been taken away.
 
I can promiss that i will not ever purchase a H&M rig. Not because I feel they are not worth what they are asking for them but I have no need for a rig like he builds. If I wanted a gooseneck with reclaim/recycle capabilities I would prefer to assemble everything to arrange everything as I want it to be
 
Tom Please Understand This Is Not Pointed At You!!!!!!!!

Most Distributors I have met, treat the contractor like they're idiots. I have seen this time and time again.

Once a Distributor finds out that you are knowledgeable about equipment, chemicals or washing in general they go on the defensive. This has happened to me more than I care to remember.

You see now the BS factor has been taken away.
yeah I stopped in Louisana at a place and had to pick up something, the guy acted like I was some hack and didnt know anything at first, then he realized I was for real when I walked away and he followed me outside and saw my rig. Then he wanted to play nice and all but begged me to come back in.

I had a o ring leaking on the pump head above the valve, he said I needed to replace the pump for 799 + labor :wave2:, I stopped at a pipe warehouse and got the o ring for less than a quater, got out the 30mm socket and rachet and it was fixed in less than 30 seconds :clapping:
 
PWI is full of spelling errors but when you mess up my beloved Krystal Burgers, I have to say something!:jester:

Oooops! My bad! :speechless: Spell check didn't pick that one up! LOL...
 
Russ, you reminded me of a incident 15 or so years ago. Any one from around Maybane Noth Caroline ? I broke down there once, There is a NAPA store right off the highway, GREAT Folks there. I was from New Jersey and needed about 140.00 worth of stuff. I did not have enough cash on me, the nearest mac machine was miles away and this store did not take credit cards. BUT he took a company check from me. He said because I was in a uniform and my truck was letterd purty, I just had to be real. Never did thank that guy. Done with my hijack.
 
Hey Mark, thats how we roll in N.C. Brother!!:thumbup2:
I will tell you what, I had a contract to deliver some mixing vessels to Atlanta and my air brake compressor mounting bracket broke, Cast Aluminum. New belts, couple of chain binders, some flat stock, I made it there. I don't remember if I ever sent him a thank you letter or not, ya know, I have to look him up now with this internet thing.
 
yeah I stopped in Louisana at a place and had to pick up something, the guy acted like I was some hack and didnt know anything at first, then he realized I was for real when I walked away and he followed me outside and saw my rig. Then he wanted to play nice and all but begged me to come back in.

I had a o ring leaking on the pump head above the valve, he said I needed to replace the pump for 799 + labor :wave2:, I stopped at a pipe warehouse and got the o ring for less than a quater, got out the 30mm socket and rachet and it was fixed in less than 30 seconds :clapping:

I was in one place, and a guy came to pick up his machine (cold water unit) they explained to him that they finally found out the problem. The unloader was bad and had to be replaced. Must have been a special unloader, total bill.......$500.00!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I was in one place, and a guy came to pick up his machine (cold water unit) they explained to him that they finally found out the problem. The unloader was bad and had to be replaced. Must have been a special unloader, total bill.......$500.00!!!!!!!!!!!


I had a pump done 20 years ago...1200 out the door TS2021:banghead::banghead:
 
Ron has been a good friend.

I've spent days with him and listened to his conversations with vendors, contractors, haters. This whole thing is amazing to me. It sounds like a bunch of little girls sitting around:

One exclaims "I HATE Paris Hilton!"

"You've never MET Paris Hilton." says the other.

"Oh yeah? If I met her I wouldn't like her, nobody likes her!" she retorts.


However.....we are now looking for clues as to the names of those who ruined a business deal between Ron and Dr. Durbyl and Mr. Hyde.

I found one clue.

Where will it lead? Tom posted his new "expo" at another board and is asked.....if he doing it "as an independent show or "teamed" up with anyone".

What does that mean?

Why would anyone care?

I'm just saying. I'm just continuing the bashing....... :winknudge::winknudge:

 
That would be interesting to see that whole page or the whole thread, Hmmmmmmm

I think that we might have some good clues there.
 
My answers and observations are below in black. I just couldn't look at this post anymore without responding.

Please take a look at that seach, its funny how PWI helps draw people to your site.

Tom, what is wrong with this comment? It's a fact. PWI posts put your name all over the internet. I don't get it?

Just stay away from controversy, we cannot control 1700 peoples opionions each day.

Again, what is wrong with this comment?

thegrimescene.com you can buy a banner there.

Ok, same question?

the UAMCC you can get a banner and all 45 people plus 32 dist can see you there,

Wow, Ron is promoting his site over the others. Go figure! He must be nuts! What in Sam h*ll is wrong with this statement? Ron is using exaggeration (a very small one) to make the point that you get more exposure on PWI. What's wrong with that?

PWI is free!!!

Again? What's wrong with that statement?

Your welcome to stick around because you are your own voice.

Wow, it's really getting nasty now. Give me a break!


I also dont need any cheese!!!

?????? He really overstepped his bounds with that comment didn't he? GEEEEEEEEEZ!

since I already told a few NCE was running a Pump giveway I will do what I say.

Again? What's wrong here? He told me about the pump givaway? How many others do you think he told? Don't you think his calling around and PM'ing is a form or buzz advertising. You've got a lot to learn in promotion Tom.

I had also posted your giveaway around six other places.

Same thing. He spent a little time creating a little buzz. That's just what he does. I know about some things he's working on that are a year away. He PM's or texts me -I might mention it to others. By the time the full announcement comes out half the people already know about it. IT's BUZZ MARKETING. Maybe you should try it Tom. It works better than the F U marketing you tried last week.


You keep not answering your phone, thats truly apprecieated.

Only you know if you answer your phone. You, Ron, Scott and everyone else from here who says you don't. I don't think you have a leg to stand on here. And if Ron really DIDN'T try to call you, you will have a hard time proving that with other contractors complaining about the same thing.

This is not how I work, if you want to call and talk about it we can.

????? Once again the sinister Ron at work. Those are FIGHTING words. I don't know he Ron stays out of jail using harsh language like that....... (this is ridiculous)

I'm always interested in hearing who called you to have this overnight turn off about NCE & ron Musgraves.

So you listen to some moron who probably has never even met Ron - Ron would like to know who that moron is - and you try to turn that into something AGAINST Ron.

Are you sure there wasn't a moron on each end of the phone during the conversation regarding NCE and Ron. I don't know, I'm just asking.


Let me know, no hard feelings... We had no agreement.

So, he tries to keep a deal together after a ruckus? What an evil man. Now I know why everyone hates him! Everyone hates a guy who tries to smooth things over! What is the matter with you Tom?


Now if you want to continue, My service is FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, same as above. What's wrong with this?

Did I ever mention I charged?

Maybe sarcasm is above your paygrade Tom. As I get further down to the bottom of this post, I'm starting to realize that everything I'm saying is going as far over your head as everything Ron said to you.

Yeah to good to be true!!!LOL

????? More Ron evil....good grief!

Call me because Like I said I'm having one in your area in April May or June. if we cant work it out I'm cool.


So what? I hope Ron has one at your next door neighbors for the crap you've put out on here. I'll go to it. I'll personally call every competitor you have within 300 miles to come and if Ron won't let them come and sell for free, I'll pay for their booths myself. How's that for evil Tom?

If you're going to assasinate someone's character based on the word of a few disgruntled painters and landscapers who live off their wives 9-5 jobs, I'd suggest you come loaded with bullets instead of BB's.

Above from RON

Good Luck trying to find disgruntled Hot and Mighty Guys. You are a piece of work. I would rather have three guys come to the show ready to learn how to do industrial cleaning then deal with this childishness.


How about you look for some disgruntled members of the group that you listened too when they gave you the false information about Ron. They are easy to find.


You'll have three guys or maybe even thirty guys coming to learn how to clean. Then they will leave and won't buy anything from you just like happened in Orlando. The difference being you won't have Ron there to promote your sales and build up excitement that leads to purchases.

I have a feeling you are going to be back in the shadows once you realize what an opportunity you blew.
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Chris, the above thread is in the publicly viewed area. You dont even need to log in to view it. Hmmmmmmm


You're right Michael, I didn't present it as if it was a secret and that was the only poster on the thread that appeared to determine the value of an event based on who was putting it on.

Chris, a lot of people posted in that thread, I pulled out the only goofy one.
 
WOW The thread should be named "The ways we hate Ron and the reasons we come back"...:ignore:

Welcome back Tom
 
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