Used Alkata rig 37hrs, is it a good deal?

Mattcogdell

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Does this seem like a good deal? 37 hrs, new trailer and all. Has brakes on it as well. factory it's about a 5gpm but the company who built the rig made it to 8gpm. I'm not sure how they made it 8gm. It's a 12volt. What's the difference in 12 and 115? He's asking 8k he said he'd do 7500, if I got him to 7k would it be a good deal. Any thoughts or advice?
 
The trailer only has 3500 lbs axles on it. I can tell by the way it's squatting on the rear axle he has it at least 3/4 full of water.
Honda doesn't make a 25 HP engine, Kohler does. I'm willing to bet it's a 24 HP Honda. With that motor you can run a 8 GPM pump off of it.

With the diesel burners a 115 is better than a 12 volt system. I run a 12 volt system on mine but my burner is propane and it takes less to fire it off. I would go look at it with cash in my pocket and offer him $6000 and see if he bites. Cash is king. It depends on how desperate he is to sell it.
 
The trailer only has 3500 lbs axles on it. I can tell by the way it's squatting on the rear axle he has it at least 3/4 full of water.
Honda doesn't make a 25 HP engine, Kohler does. I'm willing to bet it's a 24 HP Honda. With that motor you can run a 8 GPM pump off of it.

With the diesel burners a 115 is better than a 12 volt system. I run a 12 volt system on mine but my burner is propane and it takes less to fire it off. I would go look at it with cash in my pocket and offer him $6000 and see if he bites. Cash is king. It depends on how desperate he is to sell it.

What are the pros and cons? I've never owned a hot water unit so I'm not sure about 12v and 115 systems.
 
Looks like trailer maybe slanted instead of squatting, I'm not sure though
 
We started with that same model Alkota. Unless it was modified (Which I Doubt) it's 5 gpm @ 3500 psi. Pump should be a TS-2021 General. Motor is a 20 hp. Ask for model numbers to make sure.
Ours was a 12v also, no problems just make sure you use a deep cycle battery. Equipment is only as good as maintained.

It's a great unit and started us to where we are now. Yep, $6000.00 tops.....My Dad always said "A Man Will Do Strange Things At The Sight Of Cash Money"....And They Do.

I think it would be a sound investment to take your business to the next level.

Just my $.02
 
You can ask him to take pictures of the top of the pump showing the pump model (TS2021 for 5.5gpm and TSF2021 for 8gpm) and pictures of the engine showing the hp so you know for sure, anyone can say anything but engine and pump will tell the truth whether it is 5gpm, 5.5 or 8gpm and the engine will tell you if it puts out the pressure or not.

If they don't want to show current pictures then I would be concerned as they might be trying to hide something.

It would be a shame to buy a rig, get it home and then find out that it is still only 5 or 5.5gpm and when you call the guy he tells you "They told me that it was upgraded" and you just got ripped off for not checking it out first.

Just my opinion.
 
Alright I'll check back with him on it and find out for sure about pump and hp. Can someone explain difference in 12 and 115 I'm not sure I understand. Pressure teks site lists a new 8 gpm 115 for $6,054. He'll be back in town Sunday so I'll check back with him then. Would it be worth more if it truely is a 8gpm? I don't wanna get ripped but I'm not sure wether to wait a little longer and buy new or see if this one is worth it. Thanks for the input!
 
You probably will not get all the heat you need if the skid was originally 5 or 5.5gpm since the coil is a certain size, Call Russ J. at Southside equipment. I was going to do the same thing with a skid I have but was told by several people that the water might not get hotter than 140 degrees when you go from 5.5gpm to 8gpm and have the same coil and burner.

If they changed out the pump, engine, coil and burner, that would be very expensive to do the job right, chances are they might have only changed out the pump and maybe the engine. If you think about it, the coil can easily be over $1000, the pump is probably about $700, the larger engine would probably be about $1500 to $2000, and the burner assembly installed is probably over $600. When you look at it this way, I don't see many people doing all of that for that price when you can just sell that rig and buy an 8 gpm skid ready to use or buy a used 8gpm skid.

The skid that is made 8gpm from the factory is what I would do if that is what you want/need.

You can get the info from the guy about the company that did the modifications and call them to see what they did, it would suck if you bought the rig and it will not get hot enough to remove years old gum and not be able to clean dirty/greasy commercial concrete areas where you need hotter water than 140 degrees.

A few phone calls might save you a lot of money and a lot of aggravation. Just my opinion.
 
Alright I'll check back with him on it and find out for sure about pump and hp. Can someone explain difference in 12 and 115 I'm not sure I understand. Pressure teks site lists a new 8 gpm 115 for $6,054. He'll be back in town Sunday so I'll check back with him then. Would it be worth more if it truely is a 8gpm? I don't wanna get ripped but I'm not sure wether to wait a little longer and buy new or see if this one is worth it. Thanks for the input!

Matt, difference between 12v & 110v is just the firing system for the burner. 12v uses power from the battery to fire the burner, 110v uses an on board generator to fire the burner. Advantage to 110v is you also can run power tools or lights from the generator plug, but it's only 2000 watts I believe.

I don't understand the 5355j being "Modified" to 8 gpm when Alkota makes an 8 gpm unit...the 8305, I've had both. The 5355J in the picture does not have an 8 gpm coil.

Anyone will tell you an Alkota is a better machine (Hot Water) than a Pressure Pro.....Any day.

Anything for sale is only worth what the buyer is willing to pay.......That being said there is no High Demand for used equipment like this, he's had it for sale for several months now....I've been watching it.

You're in the drivers seat on this deal, you're doing him a favor, not the other way around. Put $6000.00 on the hood, tell him that's your only offer, and tell him to go get the title....Then go make some money with that thing.

Good Luck Buddy!!!
 
What brand of hot box did you buy Jeremy?
 
With two tanks, two 100' reels, two 5 gal chem buckets on each side, and "PUMPS 8 GAL PER MINUTE, 4 GALLS PER WHEN USEING BOTH AT 3500 PSI", it sounds like two pressure washers and hooked together they get 8 GPM, although his wording is confusing.
 
man I wish I could remember exactly. but I priced out a brand new from Paul an 8 gpm 12v hot skid, two reels two 100 foot hoses two wands 15 tips surface cleaner, and some other stuff. Price was like 7500 total no tanks no trailer.
 
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